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  • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
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    1 year ago

    It's weird. They want lore, but they aren't interested in studying history (ie real life lore). They want to study fictional lore that has no use or application in their lives. They want to consume something that's both sterile and useless. There are things that are sterile but are useful (instruction videos, many boring academic subjects), things that have emotional depth but are useless (many art), and things that are both (most great art, life-affirming activities like gardening).

    I dunno, it's a strange phenomenon. It's like, what do you call someone who would rather read the starship specs on Wookiepedia than read a book on medieval warfare? They're basically reading an instructional manual of a thing that doesn't exist. At bare minimum, that time and energy could be spend on reading the instructional manual of their microwave or something. It's this bizarre space where they're reading something that's neither meaningfully fictional nor real. It's meaninglessly fictional, only a step higher than reading a fictional grocery list.

    • GriffithDidNothingWrong [comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      It's like, what do you call someone who would rather read the starship specs on Wookiepedia than read a book on medieval warfare?

      An escapist, I suppose. I read an account from a POW kept for years in solitary confinement who said he kept himself sane by creating an entire fictional baseball league in his head and tracking the players stats and imagining their games. Prisoners retreat into worlds of imagination because those are the only ones where their interaction has any sort of meaning or relevance. Someone who spends their days in drudgery chipping away at the walls that hinder more powerful peoples dreams may want to spend their off time inhabiting and learning about a world that seems no less far fetched to them than being able to tell their boss to go fuck themselves and a good deal less soaked in vitriol.

      To a slave being unproductive is rebellion, maybe the only kind of rebellion they consider realistic

    • AbbysMuscles [she/her]
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      1 year ago

      They're basically reading an instructional manual of a thing that doesn't exist

      Exactly! That or like a fictional encyclopedia. Literally in some cases. You can drill down into detailed family histories or muh hard magic systems pingu-horny or intricate details on some dude's sword handle engravings and it's all fictional. And more importantly, pointless to the overall story. It's actually baffling

      • EpicKebabEater [he/him, it/its]
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        1 year ago

        Probably a weird reaction to seeing your comment but you've made me realize I was using "soft magic" as a term for when the author sees magic as nothing but a tool to make things look cool with no meaning behind it. I was trying to figure out what made magic hard/soft and why so many things I liked looked suspiciously like what people called "soft magic" and you finally made me realize it's bullshit and my gripe was something else. Thank you.

      • spacecadet [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        I wonder about this too.

        Could it be simply a safe environment to practice and perform specific human thought capacities? Makes me think of how some sports fans can get into serious deep debates with stats and shit. Maybe humans just like working and utilizing their innate functions to think and whatever.

        Could it be that learning a fictional universe is actually "possible"? You can nail it down, put everything in it's right place, unlike actual reality, with all it's bias and ambiguity.

        Or... just escapism maybe? I like to escape, too.

    • DayOfDoom [any, any]
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      1 year ago

      History doesn't perfectly conform to their bourgeois-defined tastes and is thus distasteful compared to their distilled make-believe lore-history. Might also just be an association with the unreal and fantastic with pleasurable leisure and not stressful/boring school or work.