first off, i nominate this for the greatest image of 2021: https://twitter.com/reezels/status/1351732376632586240

TLDR: Warren-voting blue checkmark accounts are mad about people doing Marxist science and not simply saying “qanon are evil because of their essential nature”. These smarmy anti-dirtbags did cultural appropriation of comrade dril’s tweets to mock the idea of looking at how our environment shapes our ideology and worldviews. Libs who think covid denial is evil are doing capitalist denial by obscuring the material base of alienation which generated the mental superstructure which qanon parrots.

https://twitter.com/dbessner/status/1351705165485641730

This guy from Dissent ("if I was your editor" if I was your Red Guard, your cringe ass nerd account would be deleted) agrees with the Warren libs that historical materialism is not worth talking about. Very weird to see someone reduce their cognitive dissonance by getting aggro and shrieking that something "doesn't matter!!!" and "isn't important!!!".

Perhaps these 2 Woke 2 Empathy radlibs want to obscure the material effects of capitalism because they are privileged PMC class traitors? In any case, they're actually in the same category as Qanon: they lack a scientific explanation of political economic history. Which is why they desperately need to reaffirm their idealistic worldview by demanding certain groups of others to suffer because they’re "bad people" (racists, conspiracy theorists, Amber):

https://twitter.com/AlbertTappman/status/1351682508484702210

Idealists believe cultural issues matter more than our material struggle to survive under late capitalism. Marxism is a “bad analysis” because it doesn’t simply categorize people with childish superhero movie labels.

https://twitter.com/dbessner/status/1351692059812352001

These progressive Warren voters need to differentiate themselves from "evil unscientific fascists" because they believe themselves to be good people (their Reaganite politics are, like qanon, claiming to be "saving the children" despite destroying the American family unit for profit). Apparently you’re antifa if you never say such "embarrassing" things like talking about Jeffrey Epstein's friends and bourgeois business partners. Talking about the endemic sexual abuse in the ruling class is apparently a tenet of fascism to these anti-dirtbags. That's why Obama let his daughter intern with that Hollywood rapist, it would be impolite and rude not too!

  • purr [undecided]
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    3 years ago

    this is an ok article. as usual with left examinations of the right, it's written from the perspective of a white person to address white liberals moralizing about Q and seems kind of irrelevant to my pov, as a black leftist....it also doesnt really address what i really care about and what i think is really the most important: the consequences of Q / the threat and harm it causes to marginalized people....

    it would be way more interesting to have a poc do material analysis of Q supporters, where their racism or internalized racism (if theyre a Qanon-er or color) is examined alongside the economic conditions of poc in this country but that's jacobin and amber for ya, one note as fuck

    amber also is a racist person so IMO it is hard to take this analysis (lets focus on material conditions of Q and stop moralizing about them being WRONG and RACIST) with any type of seriousness by virtue that it's her saying it even though i think what she's saying here is mostly true

    also lol at them using a felix chapo quote to underscore their idea, what felix said is right and true but its just funny to see someone quote themselves/their podcast like that

    • fuckwit [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      she'd be the first dumbasss to be murdered in the night of the long knives.

    • gobble_ghoul [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      I don't actually listen to chapo at all (citations needed is better). What has Amber done to out herself as racist?

      • fuckwit [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        She supports Blue Labour.

        The previous episode she referred to Republicans as 'we'.

        She's reliably on every episode where they have anti-idpol topics.

        She's a secondary Red Scare host. In one of them she referred to a black man upset about getting the cops called on him as a karen.

        She said not all cops. In fact, she pretty much said 'cops are good, actually"

        These might seem like small things but you pick up on it after a while and you can tell there's something off.

        EDIT: I don't want to say that she is a racist, though, especially not a whole lot more than other people. She's just really really stubborn about certain facets of her political thought that give way to typical reactionary views. She's either a useful idiot for the right or a disgruntled leftist that's just fucking shit up for other people.

        • gobble_ghoul [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          It sounds like she's a lefitst edgelord that doesn't know when to turn it off.

        • gobble_ghoul [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          Obviously taste is subjective, but pretty much any time I listen to Chapo I find myself feeling like I'm listening to a bunch of nerds trying to find the most obscure pop culture references they can to make really weak in-jokes about. It's extremely boring when I don't know what they're referencing, and even when I do know what they're talking about, it rarely lands for me. I'd rather listen to a podcast with little humor than one with humor I don't enjoy. On the rare occasion that jokes actually do come up on Citations Needed, I think they typically land better. Idk, maybe it's the relative restraint. I also don't care much for the Chapos' tendency to constantly come up with hot takes that are more edge than substance.