Carnists: "Poor people can't be vegan because meat substitutes are too expensive"
Wdym? Being vegan is about replacinf your healthy, natural 80% red meat diet with an 80% impossible burger diet.
I definitely saw someone talking about eating Impossible here the other day, so I figured better safe than sorry.
$5.08/lb
Nowhere near that cheap nowadays, more like $6-7/lb for the cheap stuff and $9-10 for the super lean
how does anybody actually afford to live in America anymore? like for real what are people doing to cope
Beans
Fr tho. I bought 180lbs of dry beans this year and its been amazing for my budget and health. The bean memes, if anything, are underselling their amazingness.
I wonder where some of you folks live, my grocery store sells it for $3 a pound around here, sometimes even less.
Peanut butter has a higher protein per dollar ratio higher than all non-vegan proteins I could find.
It is still a ridiculous amount of calories though even without sugar. 180 calories for 8 grams of protein is barely making a scratch in the amount you need for a high protein diet. It has 6x the calories per gram of protein as chicken breast.
If you ate nothing but peanut butter, you'd need about 12.5 servings or 2250 calories of just peanut butter to reach 100 grams of protein. That doesn't mean you should start eating meat of course, but I honestly don't have a good solution to getting body builder levels of protein as a vegan.
I had pretty good success with lots of PB, pea protein, and some spinach
My bf is able to get there on a largely vegan diet, it's possible but again the food is pretty bland tasting. Seitan is the big deal there. He still eats meat though, says the flavors are too depressing for cheap without meat. Need to pay for a lot of spices to make it not depressing, then the cost is more than a basic meat meal. But I do think flavor science is improving vegan weightlifting options at a fast pace
Bf is competition level amount of muscle
The calories are still pretty high. In our opinion it's mostly a quick fix recovery food for if you are feeling sick after workout
Again, bf is competition level weightlifting. He's huge. So a bit different than just getting toned or muscular looking
a lot of beans are kinda the devil for anyone with stomach issues or are trying to weight lift, hard pass. soy is kinda the exception because a lot of soy products are refined to remove fodmaps.
the only things in my diet that the vegan version is noticeably more expensive are cheese and milk, cheese because tesco cycles between two cheese brands every two weeks to have a decent discount, milk because it's heavily subsidized
everything else is either a few pence more expensive at most or significantly cheaper
the amount i save on the rest subsidizes my violife and bougie nut milkI've found that the only vegan cheeses that are "good" are straight nutritional yeast, fermented cashew yoghurt soft cheeses, and any of the magic cheese sauces which really are the most impressive. Also you can get vegan lactic acid! Real game changer that.
I haven't been impressed by any store bought ones except tofoodie cream cheese, not that I can afford them anyway.
I was just in the store feeling bummed that mushrooms are $3 per pound and the cheapest meat, pork butt, was $1.50 a pound.
Given you gotta buy an eight pound cut, but I’d buy 8lbs of mushrooms at a time if I could get that price on em!
E: Went back to the store and all those mushrooms were marked down to $2 per lb. We eatin’ tonite!
I can't remember exactly how much they were but last year or so I made these little veggie wraps to replace my lunch meat sandwiches that had some spinach, banana peppers, and I think pico de gallo for pretty cheap, and they were awesome. Didn't even use cheese so most of the calorie count was in the tortilla.
Legumes are so good I love them. Definitely not as cheap as the above (at least where I am, although still significantly less than beef), but I just remembered that edamame beans are a thing and I've been absolutely devouring them they're amazing
And they're all cheaper still in bulk, 100% shelf stable for years, and ready in 50 minutes in my pressure cooker!
I still eat meat because im not vegan
Taps on the sign that says "No omni apologists or carnists"
americans just dont go to grocery shops because its too expensive so they go to fast food restaurants
A quarter pounder from McDonald's costs an average of $8, or looked at another way, about the same price as 8 pounds of kidney beans.
I still eat meat because im not vegan
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