Some of the replies and reposts have me chuckling.

    • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]
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      9 months ago

      LICHRALLY

      "anti woke" class warfare is so untenable. most people who try it just find out that they're normal conservatives, and actually unions are nothing more than protection rackets that keep people out of employment.

  • TankieTanuki [he/him]
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    9 months ago

    Damn, looks like a messy breakup. I was wondering what the status of their current relationship was exactly, so this clears things up a lot. Good on Ben for ditching the Grayzone brand.

    Show

  • neo [he/him]
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    9 months ago

    Ben Norton was why I was reading The Grayzone in the first place. When he left, I left with him. Then I saw Blumenthal's tone really change on twitter over time and I was like... ok this guy is not a principled leftist, but an opportunist. He kind of did the Glenn Greenwald thing.

  • S4ck [none/use name]
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    9 months ago

    He posted an excellent podcast on his experience in China recently that I recommend.

    Here it is

    Edit: It's hard to take Blumenthal seriously as a person after seeing him find and yell at Ben on a public bus.

    • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
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      9 months ago

      Edit: It's hard to take Blumenthal seriously as a person after seeing him find and yell at Ben on a public bus.

      My impressions of the video are:

      1. I didn't know Ben had a twin brother.

      2. How the fuck did Max track where Ben was to the point of narrowing down what bus he would board? This is some serious stalking.

      • usa_suxxx [they/them]
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        9 months ago

        How the fuck did Max track where Ben was to the point of narrowing down what bus he would board? This is some serious stalking.

        Fed Shit?

  • Pluto [he/him, he/him]
    hexagon
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    9 months ago

    Here's the original Tweet thread by Max Blumenthal:

    https://x.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1709655692750033035?s=20

  • Fishroot [none/use name]
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    9 months ago

    Greyzone lost their shit when Ben Norton left, the shit is basically yellow journalism with some analysis before (and you can clearly see who is the one driving the analysis part of their podcast). Now it's just yellow journalism with weird ass shit like how Philosophy tube is a british intelligence psyops because she took a grant for cultural related content creation

        • Pluto [he/him, he/him]
          hexagon
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          9 months ago

          I mean, I agree that anarchists were used to infiltrate and attack communist orgs by the FBI and so on, but I certainly think that not all of them are responsible for such things.

          • DivineChaos100 [none/use name]
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            9 months ago

            Not gonna search back now but as far as i remember the zine he used as proof that FBI is among anarchists (no anarchists deny that they dont try that) was actually axed and they went with a maoist one.

            • Pluto [he/him, he/him]
              hexagon
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              9 months ago

              Interesting...

              I'll have to do my own research and looking into this.

              Fair enough!

  • TheGamingLuddite [none/use name]
    cake
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    9 months ago

    Were the patsoc guys originally larouchites or did they reverse engineer it from the ground up? Or were they initially something else and then got hijacked by larouchites? The second option is the most intriguing.