Bro you can't expect him to unfurl hammer and sickle on kremlin but atleast he took a hard stance on NATO and Russia's sovereignty that takes huge balls. Even China doesn't want a direct confrontation with US.
He is a nationalistic pragmatist. He despises communists and has made that very clear, if he had the chance to unfurl the hammer and sickle he would never do it.
It just so happens that the national and economic interests of Russia are anti-west and trending in the direction of China. If NATO and the US were friendly to Russia, Putin would be the first one signing on to work with them and cooperate.
You’re right. Putin is a Marxist Leninist at heart who loves the working class and Soviet Union and is not primarily driven by the capitalistic desires of Russia’s bourgeoisie class at all.
He is a shining example of what we should all aspire to be.
Happy? Imagine getting riled up at an analogy and running to uncritically defend Putin from any and all complaint. I’m not a liberal, there’s no need to immediately say anything negative about someone that is situationally aligned with the leftist movement is hearsay.
I think you’re misunderstanding ComradeSalad if you took away them “feel[ing] smug about how bad imaginary Putin … is”.
It is worth pointing this out because Putin did repeatedly try to make friendly terms with the West but it refused (and then tried to gaslight us into thinking none of that happened)
None of us here are saying that Russia is a shining beacon of communism. I think though that a binary “good” and “bad” isn’t how the world works — there are varying degrees of good and bad.
If we had an evil scale where higher = more evil like some people would like to have, and the Putin administration is some finite number, post-Euromaidan Ukrainian government is a higher one, and the US is definitely infinity.
Totally agreed, all I really meant was that all mentioned above are comfortably in the very bad territory, its just that as you say the US is at -infinity
I don't know about this specifically, but China's typically taken a neutral route when it comes to international affairs. And that's for better or worse I guess. They haven't really funded external communist groups nor have they embroiled themselves within proxy wars. Last time I think they did that was the Korean War?
And that's fair to criticize but China's pretty consistent on how it tries to achieve very neutral terms internationally. China even trades weapons with Israel, which sucks.
Unfortunately he's also been shitting on USSR and Lenin, from what I've heard from the Q/A
Bro you can't expect him to unfurl hammer and sickle on kremlin but atleast he took a hard stance on NATO and Russia's sovereignty that takes huge balls. Even China doesn't want a direct confrontation with US.
He is a nationalistic pragmatist. He despises communists and has made that very clear, if he had the chance to unfurl the hammer and sickle he would never do it.
It just so happens that the national and economic interests of Russia are anti-west and trending in the direction of China. If NATO and the US were friendly to Russia, Putin would be the first one signing on to work with them and cooperate.
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I agree, that's why that would never happen in any reality. I'm just saying in the hypothetical that if it did happen by some insane metric.
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You’re right. Putin is a Marxist Leninist at heart who loves the working class and Soviet Union and is not primarily driven by the capitalistic desires of Russia’s bourgeoisie class at all.
He is a shining example of what we should all aspire to be.
Happy? Imagine getting riled up at an analogy and running to uncritically defend Putin from any and all complaint. I’m not a liberal, there’s no need to immediately say anything negative about someone that is situationally aligned with the leftist movement is hearsay.
I think you’re misunderstanding ComradeSalad if you took away them “feel[ing] smug about how bad imaginary Putin … is”.
It is worth pointing this out because Putin did repeatedly try to make friendly terms with the West but it refused (and then tried to gaslight us into thinking none of that happened)
Be respectful to other ppl here, or we won't hesitate to issue temp bans.
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No, they took Putin's ideological stances to their logical conclusion. Which isn't socialist by any means.
Putin is bad and so is russia, being opportunistically able to align against nazis is just a good strategic move, but its not the motivation
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I'm a clown for recognizing that Putin is no proponent of communism or queer or black liberation?
ok
Its good when our enemies are fighting each other, but that doesn't make some of them suddenly our friends
None of us here are saying that Russia is a shining beacon of communism. I think though that a binary “good” and “bad” isn’t how the world works — there are varying degrees of good and bad.
If we had an evil scale where higher = more evil like some people would like to have, and the Putin administration is some finite number, post-Euromaidan Ukrainian government is a higher one, and the US is definitely infinity.
Totally agreed, all I really meant was that all mentioned above are comfortably in the very bad territory, its just that as you say the US is at -infinity
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I don't understand what you're talking about/ what I'm looking at, can you explain what you mean?
Also, I'm not a liberal in case you thought I was doing the western liberal version of putler bad
good lord ..
... is it really that bad to ask for clarification about the random wiki screenshot and historical event you brought up?
Okay sure, don't try to educate someone who's asking to be educated, be a fucking loser lmao
also don't call me bro, my pronouns are right there
I don't know about this specifically, but China's typically taken a neutral route when it comes to international affairs. And that's for better or worse I guess. They haven't really funded external communist groups nor have they embroiled themselves within proxy wars. Last time I think they did that was the Korean War?
And that's fair to criticize but China's pretty consistent on how it tries to achieve very neutral terms internationally. China even trades weapons with Israel, which sucks.
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He is still less revisionist about them than the west and vocally opposes that extra amount of revisionism that makes up the difference