• lil_tank@lemmygrad.ml
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    1 year ago

    The CCP (Chinese Communist Party) is abusing RISC-V to get around U.S. dominance of the intellectual property needed to design chips.

    Noooo technology has to be kept secret so rich people can make profit, open and voluntary collaboration is CHEATING 🤬🤬 (but capitalism is the most efficient model and socialism no innovation)

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.ml
      hexagon
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      1 year ago

      The whole chip war was a real mask off moment for the US. All of a sudden politicians started openly admitting that they want to keep China from developing.

  • ZoomeristLeninist [they/them, she/her]
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    1 year ago

    could erode the current U.S. lead in the chip field and help China modernize its military

    the US lead in chip tech is already being eroded, these protectionist policies are counterintuitive, thank god the ppl in charge of the US are so incompetent lol

    also “modernize its military”? that’s some nuclear grade cope

  • nephs@lemmygrad.ml
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    1 year ago

    Next step is to criminalize FOSS more broadly for unfair competition against corporate software.. Amazing.

      • Galli [comrade/them]
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        1 year ago

        It's less the logical end point and more the desired end goal to which they've been actively working towards for decades rationalizing each step as a necessary compromise.

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.ml
          hexagon
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          1 year ago

          I meant logically in a sense of following the thought process behind banning companies using RISC-V to its ultimate conclusion. I agree that there's nothing rational about any of this.

  • darkcalling@lemmygrad.ml
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    1 year ago

    It doesn't have NSA backdoors in the design so it's unacceptable for domestic use and they don't want it to take off for foreign use because then they can't spy on other countries. (Same rationale behind banning Huawei, never was about Chinese backdoors, was about lack of NATO backdoors that was the issue and always will be with any Chinese products).

    Even assuming a lack of built in backdoors, the west controlling the companies responsible for these things mean they can sit in the pipe of their security disclosures and pick out zero days disclosed to the company, exploit them against enemies first before those enemies even know it. If they're Chinese companies they can't do that.

    There's zero evidence China behaves like the western bandits and hoodlums and plenty pointing to the fact China keeps business (selling you good working products) and spying (gathering intelligence) separate. They won't sell you a trojan horse, they'll just hack you, having no particular advantage because of secret knowledge or back-doors. Which is the way things should be in the type of world the west claims to be for in their alleged desire for free markets and free trade.

      • nephs@lemmygrad.ml
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        1 year ago

        Exactly. An add instruction, or any instruction needs to be carried out in steps within the hardware. Sometimes there's systematic bugs in these implementations that can be exploited.

        Plus, it's an open architecture where those bugs can be exposed and fixed. Where in Intel/arm based architectures, they can be rolled out to the world and be used by those in the know.

        Eg: https://www.techrepublic.com/article/is-the-intel-management-engine-a-backdoor/

        • ShiningWing@lemmygrad.ml
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          1 year ago

          RISC-V being open doesn't mean all implementations using it have to be, though

          There's nothing stopping a manufacturer from putting their own Intel Management Engine equivalent in a RISC-V CPU

  • Flyberius [comrade/them]
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    1 year ago

    The implication that this is some sort if one way relationship where only China benefits at the expense of American corporations is hilarious.

    If they honestly think that then their exceptionalism is at terminal levels.

    Hilarious

  • LeylaLove [she/her, love/loves]
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    1 year ago

    This is a weird way of begging the United States to nerf itself into being a so called "third world country" on tech

  • DefinitelyNotAPhone [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    I can't wait to watch them do this and then realize that a solid 2/3rds of modern electronics have a RISC-V chip in them somewhere because they're cheap as fuck and dependable so long as you don't need cutting edge performance.