Millions of Leaked Police Files Detail Suffocating Surveillance of China’s Uyghur Minority
theintercept.com
Invasive digital monitoring and community informants drive a system all too ready to classify Muslims in Ürümqi as extremists and terrorists.

I genuinely went to read this in good faith since it's The Intercept (I know it's not great, but it's not CNN) but decided to do a quick text search for Zenz just to make sure. And of course, the whole fucking thing is full of Zenz.

This is just ridiculous at this point. I really don't want to be a genocide-denier if there is actually one happening, but for fuck's sake this is just ridiculous, LET ME SEE ONE REPORT ON THIS WITHOUT ZENZ ALL OVER IT.

  • keki_ya [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    I personally don’t agree with China’s approach, but how exactly are you supposed to get a bunch of 22-year old men to learn marketable skills without forcefully enrolling them in jobs programs? If you do nothing, many won’t enroll and will get left behind only speaking one language, and Xinjiang will stay poor. If you force them to learn Chinese and stay overnight at schools/camps, well then you’re putting people there against their will, potentially erasing their culture and violating them. Seems like a difficult situation

    • CatherineTheSoSo [any]
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      4 years ago

      This sounds so strange to me. People all around the world including in socialist and religious countries pay good money and/or study to get education. What's wrong with those people that they have to be physically forced to get marketable skills? That just sounds like a failure to use available economic levers.

        • CatherineTheSoSo [any]
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          4 years ago

          I dunno. My rural relatives here in Russia have all the opportunities to engage in subsistence farming. Their parents and grandparents have been doing it their whole lives and have plenty to teach about farming. They've inherited more than enough land and it's hilariously cheap to buy. The healthcare and education are free. Yet they jumped at opportunity to do shitty physically demanding jobs that pay like $200 a month instead of farming potatoes without using any machinery as my grandparents used to do just twenty years ago.

        • kegel_dialectic [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Yeah I hear sustenance farming was great for the elderly and disabled. Do they deserve commodities? Workers have to produce surplus if society cares about non-workers.