If you wanna read my response:

https://www.reddit.com/r/AntifascistsofReddit/comments/l6w37t/alexi_navalni/glo5j8y?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

  • keki_ya [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    I thought antifa was an explicitly anarchist/socialist thing, what with the red and black flags in the logo. But OP isn’t even a socialist based off his post history.

    So I guess it’s good that libs are joining radical antifascist movements, but it’s also really shitty that they get to scold actual long-time activists as Russian agents and just generally project their shitty American-exceptionalism

    • RNAi [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      The only thing they do is muddle/coopt the whole thing ruining it, just like when they started dancing in the BLM protests. Then a kid or someone totally ignorant of politics get interested, find that coopted shit and think this is how it is.

      Libs ruin everything. Libs ruin everything.

      • keki_ya [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        There’s this really stupid multi-panel image called “death of a hobby” or something like that, and it’s basically this incel chart that details the stages of how nerdy hobbies /subcultures slowly get coopted and transformed as evil womans and normal people join in

        Basically the initial stage is that the hobby is dominated by a dedicated group of hobbyists who know the hobby inside and out, they genuinely enjoy doing it and develop a subculture around it. Then, friends of friends start joining in, but they don’t know the rules and care more about using the hobby as a means to socialize and meet with other people

        Eventually, the hobby itself becomes so watered down that the original people leave, going off to start a new thing, where the cycle starts again.

        Anyways, I find that if you get rid of the sexism and change it around a little, it can describe how liberals infest and coopt social movements. There may be a few good-natured libs who join BLM thinking they truly do want to participate in black liberation, but since they lack proper material analysis and politics besides “we can fix racism by winning hearts and minds” they just completely miss the point of radical groups, stripping them of their revolutionary character. After a few years, the movement becomes an empty husk you use to hang out with friends and take photos at. The original communist/radicals in the movement then have to leave and join another radical group

        If I can find the original image I will link it

        okay i found it