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  • VerifiedPoster [any]
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    3 years ago

    One online commenter claimed that fact checkers have no privileged epistemological position, however we at PolitiFact were unable to find any sources corroborating this claim. We therefore rated it three Pinnochios. :pinocchio-evil: :pinocchio-evil: :pinocchio-evil:

    • CarlTheRedditor [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      This is almost as good as WaPo deciding that wealth is just a meaningless and ephemeral concept so they could declare Bernie wrong about how poor the rest of the world is.

      Edit: this looks like I'm shitting on their bit and I'm not, it's very good, I just want to point out how reality is at least as absurd as fiction.

    • CarlTheRedditor [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      I've never seen us lean into ignorance like this. We usually have a reason.

    • CarlTheRedditor [he/him]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      Yeah to be clear this post isn't a defense of fact checkers, who are exactly what you say. It's just funny that the chuds have gone so far in the opposite direction that they're basically rejecting reality. At what point do the chuds face the idea that maybe they're just wrong?

  • AdamSandler [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    “Accredited sources” are entirely CIA funded narratives. The shit Alex Jones says is more correct than anything CNN or MSNBC has ever posited

    Also that guy you cited is a v**sh fan lmao

    • SteveHasBunker [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      The shit Alex Jones says is more correct than anything CNN or MSNBC has ever posited

      Nah, he sells the same narrative to a different demographic. Despite his vague nods at populism Jones is still an American right winger who'd love to see Beijing and Tehran laying in cinders. It's just his audience is more sold on these ideas but convincing them that those cities are run by an evil alien pedophile cult, CNN's audience are sold on that idea by "experts" saying there are "human rights abuses" or something.

        • Ericthescruffy [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          Right? The fuck guys...this is getting worse then that whole semi ironically supporting trump bit. Many hours of binging citations needed have made me fully on board with being skeptical of "establishment sources" but even in this mad strange world you're not gonna get me to believe Alex jones has ever done a day of good reporting.

            • BasedGiraffe [none/use name]
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              3 years ago

              I’ve seen him cause struggle sessions here over this topic before (right-left anti establishment unity; not alex jones specifically), and he didn’t get upvoted when explaining then either, or now. I think people just thought he was doing a bit at first

        • AdamSandler [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          Ah yes preferring anti establishment people to socially signal my hatred of the government makes me a chud

            • AdamSandler [he/him]
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              3 years ago

              I know, but it’s better to be against liberalism than to be for it

                • AdamSandler [he/him]
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                  3 years ago

                  The problem is, liberalism is the dominant evil in the world. You have to oppose it with every ounce of your willpower and take anything and do anything to defeat it

                    • AdamSandler [he/him]
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                      3 years ago

                      In theory I would. But in practice, it’s quite clear Trump was doing it to give power to the CIA. They’re prepping us for Domestic Terrorist laws.

                      https://t.co/wJP7UhEIFB

                      Yes I know I know :freeze-peach: but censorship will affect the left harder than the right

                        • AdamSandler [he/him]
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                          3 years ago

                          As if a right wing uprising would be allowed to succeed in America

                          • BasedGiraffe [none/use name]
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                            3 years ago

                            Lmao dude if you’re feeling hopeless in the ability to shake establishment here, do what I do and put your faith in the third world to rise when America is weak and force the hand from the outside, but seeing soc dems as a greater or equal threat in comparison to fascism was a mistake made once already that got the left murdered in Germany, and I’m not sure why you think siding with the right here against libs would go any better.

                            It doesn’t matter if you think the bourgeoisie would want it to happen. If enough chuds in the military and militias decide to take power and the police are already chuds, it’s just going to happen.

                            What do you even think happens if the nonexistent left here helped facilitate a power vacuum?

                      • SteveHasBunker [he/him]
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                        3 years ago

                        You have to oppose it with every ounce of your willpower and take anything and do anything to defeat it

                        Did you forget your own previous comment bro?

                          • SteveHasBunker [he/him]
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                            3 years ago

                            You elsewhere...

                            Ah yes preferring anti establishment people to socially signal my hatred of the government makes me a chud

                            Does this include fascists?

                            bet you’d join the chud capitol riot to own the libs

                            In theory I would.

                            Those rioters were pretty fashy bro, yet "in theory" you'd be down to work with them.

      • AdamSandler [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Yes, but there is an evil pedophile cult, just in America. Alex Jones is wrong a lot of the time, but he’s still more fundamentally truthful than any MSNBC liberal

        • SteveHasBunker [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          There isn't an evil pedophile cult, there's a bunch of rich people who like abusing children because their psychos and they hang out with each other and rape kids together, hypothetically any average Joe who was raised in that kind of toxic environment of extreme privilege could become one of those sickos, it's not because aliens got people to worship Satan. Presenting it as some strange other of cartoonist evil is basically just warming people up to the fascist idea of some foreign conspiracy (usually Jews, communists and communist Jews) trying to destabilize the nation for no clear motive besides just being fucking evil for evil's sake.

          It's clear from what Jones focuses on with the Epstein case that he doesn't really care about pedo cults, I'd actually argue the MSMs reporting on it was more "honest" in that they didn't shy away from pointing out that both Clinton and Trump were on his flight logs. Sure they felt comfortable doing so because Mr. Clinton has lost most of his political relevancy and everyone has bought this narrative that him and his wife sleep in different rooms so she probably "didn't know", and Trump is so hated by libs they can say anything about him and sell headlines, but they did actually present the true fact Epstein had connections on both sides of the political system. Jones and his fans claim every Republican with connections to Epstein was actually just a deep cover infiltrator.

          • MidnightInTheDesert [they/them]
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            3 years ago

            There isn’t an evil pedophile cult, there’s a bunch of rich people who like abusing children because their psychos and they hang out with each other and rape kids together

            Honestly that does sound like an evil pedophile cult to me lmao but I think I see what you mean. Sure they're not sacrificing people on an altar to Satan but what they're actually doing is somehow even more disturbing. This is how some of them seal business deals, maintain secrecy and discipline in their groups, collect blackmail, reward one another, etc. All these evil acts for such mundane purposes. At the end of the day though we should be pointing to the capitalist system to explain why some of these things are so pervasive; why they're so tolerated among the bourgeoisie; and not blame interdimensional reptoids currently living deep below the surface or something to that effect.

          • AdamSandler [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            Except the media then says “oh Epstein killed himself.” If you think Epstein killed himself you’re fucking stupid. Alex Jones knows that but it’s his job to make real truths look bad. Still, he has to hide the kernel of truth the media hides.

            Saying that there isn’t a cabal of rich people and people in power who have a shared interest in pedophilia and liberal capitalism would be false. Literally every person with power was in connections with Epstein Incorporated.

            • SteveHasBunker [he/him]
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              3 years ago

              “oh Epstein killed himself.” If you think Epstein killed himself you’re fucking stupid.

              I agree but I also think people on here focus too much on the "he was murdered!" thing. Yeah he probably was but if it undeniably came out that he had actually offed himself, would that change anything? He still trafficked young girls to a bunch of rich fucks, doesn't really matter too to much if those rich fucks directly had a hand in his death.

              Saying that there isn’t a cabal

              I don't think it's a "cabal", I think it's just people like sexual gratification, and when you're insanely rich and privileged you always want more and more till the point having an under-aged sex slave is the only thing left that can sate your lust so you network with a bunch of people who get fulfill that desire for you. It's not that Satan or the Illuminati told them to do it, they just do it because that's what rich dudes who are super high on coke want to do.

              Also, I'll be frank, yes we need to break up these disgusting wealthy circles of child abuse, but lets not ignore, there are probably plenty of bourgeois who aren't pedophiles, and they are still bad, and there's working class people who use human trafficking services to acquire under-aged sexual services, and they are also bad. Not everyone who is gonna have to get gulaged was on Epstein's log books.

      • AdamSandler [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        No, because Alex Jones does the hype shit where he exaggerates in order to get clout. It’s too believable to assume Adam Lanza was a CIA agent, so say that no one died and it was all a lie. He does this because he knows the truth but if he says too much truth he gets assassinated

    • autismdragon [he/him, comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      Jesus fucking christ

      Pictured: Memes of chuds being totally disconnected from reality Chacha leftists: Actually being disconnected from reality is good lol

      I hate the left and I want out.

      • AdamSandler [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        I’m in reality, not the fake reality given to you by the MSM and Capitalism

        • autismdragon [he/him, comrade/them]
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          3 years ago

          When you start saying that Alex Jones is more believable than the MSM you're actually not connected to reality anymore and need to log off for about 3 years.

  • ComradeMikey [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    while i agree we should take sources with metric fuck ton of salt... you need some grounding or you get the wacky shit true anon puts out sometimes lmao i love brace and liz but i gotta turn it off sometimes from how off the rails they get

  • Grownbravy [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    This was them until 4 years ago when the world spun off the lathe of time to controllably ping off the walls