I have real life stuff to attend to, so I'll just repost what i said the last time i had the energy to engage with you braindead freaks about this and go about my day. I'm not expecting you to read any of this, but maybe it'll help other people apply an ounce of critical thinking before supporting what could be described most generously as mass religious persecution
Here is how China has described the concentration camps in their own words.
Based on local demand and employment conditions, they set up training programs in the making of garments, footwear and hats, food processing, assembly of electronic products, typesetting and printing, cosmetology and hairdressing, e-business, and other courses.
Sounds like an awful long way of saying “forced labor camp” but let’s chalk that up to bad translation
Many trainees were influenced by religious extremism
Uh, what about the ones that weren’t influenced by religious extremism at all? Why exactly are they even there?
Confession, repentance, and willingness to receive training are preconditions for leniency
Wait, I thought this was a job training program? Why do I have to confess to something I never did just to learn how to stitch fabrics…
Through training, trainees have gained rudimentary vocational skills, and some of them have completed their study at the centers and found jobs.
Oh wow! A tiny portion of them have been released and allowed to be paid for their labor! I’m sure that really put a smile on the face of everyone else stuck making shoes until they die.
Trainees can have home visits on a regular basis and can ask for leave to attend to private affairs
They can ask to leave! They’ll be denied, and no discussion was entertained as to how often these requests are fulfilled if at all, but clearly the important thing is that they were theoretically allowed to ask, just as marx intended.
Trainees may not organize and participate in religious activities at the centers
Muslims pray 5 times a day. So to hold them in a detention center for an undisclosed period of time, with no leave, and no ability to even pray sure sounds like religious persecution to me. And that’s if we are taking the most literal possible interpretation of what religious activities mean. Pardon my language but…something tells me the ccp has taken a slightly more liberal interpretation.
I see we're taking the "bury him in copy/paste and hope it makes me look smart" tact here so allow me to cut through some of the bullshit.
These are the people at the centers and the how: "1. People who were incited..."
Literally, just stop right there.
Who exactly are they referring to with this choice of words?
People who went to a mosque one time?
What does it mean to be fucking "incited" as it is different from the rest of the criteria listed? Because it doesn't mean they actually did anything. Do you have any fucking clue how vague any of this is? Has it occurred to you that this may have been purposeful? and while we are at it
people who participated in terrorist or extremist activities in circumstances that were not serious enough to constitute a crime
literally, what the fuck does this even mean? They're straight up lifting the bush line about the dangers of "unindicted co-conspirators" to make innocent people look like they deserved to be put in fucking gitmo. What happened to your brain that you were able to read this and reach the conclusion that defending it was the right thing to do? holy shit. I would need to be the biggest masochist on earth to keep reading any of this, so I'll take another break here for now.
I have real life stuff to attend to, so I'll just repost what i said the last time i had the energy to engage with you braindead freaks about this and go about my day. I'm not expecting you to read any of this, but maybe it'll help other people apply an ounce of critical thinking before supporting what could be described most generously as mass religious persecution
http://english.www.gov.cn/r/Pub/GOV/ReceivedContent/Other/2019-03-18/WhitePaper.docx
Here is how China has described the concentration camps in their own words.
Sounds like an awful long way of saying “forced labor camp” but let’s chalk that up to bad translation
Uh, what about the ones that weren’t influenced by religious extremism at all? Why exactly are they even there?
Wait, I thought this was a job training program? Why do I have to confess to something I never did just to learn how to stitch fabrics…
Oh wow! A tiny portion of them have been released and allowed to be paid for their labor! I’m sure that really put a smile on the face of everyone else stuck making shoes until they die.
They can ask to leave! They’ll be denied, and no discussion was entertained as to how often these requests are fulfilled if at all, but clearly the important thing is that they were theoretically allowed to ask, just as marx intended.
Muslims pray 5 times a day. So to hold them in a detention center for an undisclosed period of time, with no leave, and no ability to even pray sure sounds like religious persecution to me. And that’s if we are taking the most literal possible interpretation of what religious activities mean. Pardon my language but…something tells me the ccp has taken a slightly more liberal interpretation.
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I see we're taking the "bury him in copy/paste and hope it makes me look smart" tact here so allow me to cut through some of the bullshit.
Literally, just stop right there.
Who exactly are they referring to with this choice of words?
People who went to a mosque one time?
What does it mean to be fucking "incited" as it is different from the rest of the criteria listed? Because it doesn't mean they actually did anything. Do you have any fucking clue how vague any of this is? Has it occurred to you that this may have been purposeful? and while we are at it
literally, what the fuck does this even mean? They're straight up lifting the bush line about the dangers of "unindicted co-conspirators" to make innocent people look like they deserved to be put in fucking gitmo. What happened to your brain that you were able to read this and reach the conclusion that defending it was the right thing to do? holy shit. I would need to be the biggest masochist on earth to keep reading any of this, so I'll take another break here for now.
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