• kleeon [he/him, he/him]
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    9 months ago

    what is happening? Is big tech profitability collapsing? It seems like every big website is trying very hard to cut costs and find new sources of revenue right now

    • came_apart_at_Kmart [he/him, comrade/them]
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      9 months ago

      i firmly believe it's the interest rate hike. the fed rate has been set to "free money" since the GFC in 2007.

      [aside from a little blip between 2016 and COVID when rates were gradually increased up to a whopping 2% over 4 years before being flattened to "free money" when COVID hit].

      now, in less than 1.5 years, it's gone from "free money" to 5.5%. that's enough to make "investors" [aka, people who negotiate giant loans from investment banks to invest in companies] squeamish about negotiating additional operating loans and pressuring executives to find money under the couch cushions, so to speak..

      to be fair, i think the enshittification process of trying to squeeze a buck out of everything was inevitable to capitalism, but the rise of interest rates so high over such a short window set a fire under it.

      • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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        9 months ago

        i think the enshittification process of trying to squeeze a buck out of everything was inevitable to capitalism

        you could even call it enclosure

            • autismdragon [he/him, comrade/them]
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              9 months ago

              I was a big fan of Invisionfree. used to play Survivor ORGs on there. Tapatalk bought out zetaboards, the supposedly "upgraded" version of invisionfree that actually was worse, then transitioned all the already-zeta boards to tapatalk's own system which is WAY WAY WAY worse (zeta was at least usable) but they just straight up deleted any invision boards that weren't "upgraded" to zeta on time. They were doing transfers from the servers for awhile and I was able to "rescue" the games I hosted that way but so many boards are just gone now. And Invision had custome themes so the boards were pretty but tapatalk has just one ugly ass theme that sucks ass and I hate it.

              They also bought out Yuku, deleted a bunch of inactive boards (including mine, that had some important memories on it) and transfered the active ones to their shitty system.

              I fucking hate them.

              • fox [comrade/them]
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                9 months ago

                Link aggregators with comment threads are not the same as forums

                • SerLava [he/him]
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                  9 months ago

                  I mean yeah, I used to post on a half dozen BBS forums

      • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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        9 months ago

        the tech industry now is a lot like the 1800s rail industry in that it's changing society and hype drives investment but profitability just isn't there

    • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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      9 months ago

      my guess is that gulf state monarchy investors (Saudi, Qatar, UAE etc) haven't been satisfied with the profit margins and are demanding more control over the companies, whereas American/European investors are possibly more focused on market share

      could be rising competition from Chinese tech companies as well

      It could also be a collapsing bubble where everyone's realizing personal data sold to advertising companies isn't as valuable as everyone assumed it was 15 years ago. They ran out of people to scoop data from. Everyone's already got every possible type of targeted ad pointed directly at their eyeballs 24/7. The market is cornered and there's nothing left to speculate on

    • loathesome dongeater@lemmygrad.ml
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      9 months ago

      Apparently Google does not reveal YouTube profitability: https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/03/google-still-isnt-telling-us-about-youtube-and-cloud-profits.html

    • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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      9 months ago

      I think this is normal Tendency of the Rate of Profit to Fall stuff