this is especially annoying when composers say 'swung feel', predominantly use dotted eighth sixteenth patterns, but then also include regular eighth notes and also triplets.

related, the goldenberg xylo book is jank in some spots and idk why it's still used instead of newer exercise/etude books

    • Snack_Bolshevik
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      4 years ago

      This is pretty much exactly what David Bruce goes over in this video discussing swing feel. I'd also like to add that in my school band experience, the composers who really knew their stuff generally only used the dotted eighth sixteenth pattern as a swing feel when writing tunes that called for a shuffle style. It was mostly in either beginner charts or those meant to be played outside of a jazz ensemble like marching band or orchestra where I saw the dotted eighth sixteenth pattern equal swung eighth notes.

    • epic_gamer_2007 [he/him]
      hexagon
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      4 years ago

      Speaking as both a pianist and a percussionist, those differences in swing and feel between different parts of the ensemble is so true. I'm remembering a clinic I watched of a rhythm section where the pianist talked about having to almost play ahead of the beat in order to recreate the style of Count Basie's playing. As an orchestral percussionist, you almost have to intentionally drag in order to stay in time with the slow attack of the strings.

      Also, I love me some unusual swing feels. Not to get all jazz-circlejerky, but the shit Jacob Collier does with septuplet swing/dilla feel is SO good. I probably should seek out more jazz with unorthodox feels.