Seriously what is up with whining about people bringing their kids shopping. I get that they hate poor people I just would expect them to have more than one thing to talk about
Edit: Even though I enjoy conflict, I guess I'll add some context here anyway. The usual line I hear as smalltalk is "You don't have to bring the whole family shopping," which if you don't shut it down immediately, will be followed up with some of the most racist and/or classist statements you can imagine, typically involving birth rates
It is very weird how
is alienated from children. Most adults don’t interact with or even see children regularly unless they have children or work in child care. It’s really sad how such a fundamental part of existence is so cordoned off both for the children not being able to see and be part of their whole world and for the adults missing out on the sense of community and humanity that comes from dealing with both the good and the bad about children. The system behind this dehumanized structure is obviously capitalism. I’d encourage any comrades to let go of any unnecessary boundaries between adult and child spaces and embrace more humanity.
i agree to an extent but me and my friends constantly smoke weed, plus my house/room has far too many small and fragile and sharp things around to be a child safe place. its the same reason i don't have pets even though i don't dislike them, i just couldn't trust them around my models and miniatures (plus most of my family is allergic). there do need to be some amount of exclusively adult and exclusively (probably with oversight) child spaces imo, but probably to a lesser degree than the status quo in many places.
Sure your personal space is yours to define, my concern is with how society perceives shared spaces. And for those shared spaces there’s already an expectation (especially from comrades) of things like public safety, consideration for differently abled people, elderly persons. We should not limit those considerations away from the expectation children will be there and have their own unique needs, including social understanding for their lack of ability to fully self regulate , and that we can pay into a community that accepts and shares that cost same as we would encourage community to share and accept all sorts of other social costs.
It depends on the area you live. You get a little further from the cities and there is a very normal mix of families wherever you go and consequently much less of the type of judgement being discussed in this thread. Cities tend to collect single people or people without kids, and frankly, raising kids in an urban setting is much more challenging so fewer people do it or they move out when they start a family.
Leaving urban areas is not a reasonable prerequisite to raising children.