There's no reaction they want. It's just someone huffing their own farts about how much smarter and better they are than other people.
I've literally seen people talk behind their vegan friend's backs for doing stuff like this because they find it annoying.
Like, yeah. What an own. Turns out thousands of years of culture where dogs are companions will be viewed differently compared to other animals that are used for food.
I really don't think this is appropriate for /c/food honestly. I'm fine with vegan recipes being posted or whatever but harassing people for what they eat is just completely wrong.
Edit - I want to add an edit to explain that I'm not openly hostile to vegans and have attempted to change my diet in the past. A lot of their arguments make sense to me and I'll eat least try a vegan diet again when I'm feeling better. But I know from experience that this line of argument just weirds people out.
I've honestly refrained from posting meals I've been proud of on here because I don't want people to get mad at me.
I do have vegan friends and I've always been helpful towards them and their diet. Even looked for places specifically to go and eat out with them because I know how shitty than can be for vegans and vegetarians.
My culture ate and used dogs until we were forced in living memory not to anymore, with no real alternative substitute emerging to replace them.
And when I asked a vegan on here for recipes and tips to become closer to eating vegan and they were like "idk google it"
So I'll get vegans shaming cultures like mine on here, as well as vegans who offer literally no help to become more like a vegan than not. I know how to butcher/cook/make clothes with dogs more than how to eat some veggies, and there isn't always support to balance that out and learn how to change my reflexes wrt eating meat vs veggie dishes.
Veganism is good, most vegans are good, some vegans are totally fucking insufferable and tone-deaf and they are their own worst enemy.
I get that I guess. I understand that vegans get sick of, let's face it, the same shitty arguments and weird "le epic bacon bros" and this is basically an outlet for that. But this is /c/food.
It literally says, in the top corner.
The place for all kinds of food discussion: from photos of dishes you’ve made to recipes or even advice on how to eat healthier and reduce animal products not only for your health but the health of our environment. Be respectful in threads regarding processed foods and animal products, shaming people does no good!
Haha, you could replace pretty much this entire comment with, like, kids in cages, and you sound exactly like a fucking lib. "I'm fine with people posting about kids in cages, but harassing people is where I draw the line"
"If you change the words then it would mean something different"
Edit - I keep writing things and then feeling bad afterward lol
Honestly, if you are genuinely trying to change someone's mind then harassing people is literally the complete opposite way of doing things.
People are, on the whole, quite reactionary and protective of their lives. Telling someone that the way they think is wrong will often feel like an attack and, as good as it feels to dunk on someone, it will often make them stand by their beliefs even harder.
What do you think genuinely would help more people turn vegan? Statistics regarding emissions and water usage for farming, or calling someone who eats meat a bloodsucking carnist who consumes animal flesh?
That kind of stuff is all well and good in vegan spaces for having a laugh between people already in the culture but outside you have to be way more careful.
I turned vegan because people shouted at me that my behaviour was unethical and forced me to think. We do the same to people all the time. We dunk on chuds online because we're right, we know we're right, they're being ghouls. Omnivores just don't like realising they're doing the same with animal rights. I act like an asshole because I'm fucking angry. I'm so fucking angry that this is happening. And that people who are good people refuse to think this through and realise this. If you admit that animals have sentience, you can't morally justify eating them. And I'm not gonna coddle anyone until they realise that.
There's no reaction they want. It's just someone huffing their own farts about how much smarter and better they are than other people.
I've literally seen people talk behind their vegan friend's backs for doing stuff like this because they find it annoying.
Like, yeah. What an own. Turns out thousands of years of culture where dogs are companions will be viewed differently compared to other animals that are used for food.
I really don't think this is appropriate for /c/food honestly. I'm fine with vegan recipes being posted or whatever but harassing people for what they eat is just completely wrong.
Edit - I want to add an edit to explain that I'm not openly hostile to vegans and have attempted to change my diet in the past. A lot of their arguments make sense to me and I'll eat least try a vegan diet again when I'm feeling better. But I know from experience that this line of argument just weirds people out.
I've honestly refrained from posting meals I've been proud of on here because I don't want people to get mad at me.
I do have vegan friends and I've always been helpful towards them and their diet. Even looked for places specifically to go and eat out with them because I know how shitty than can be for vegans and vegetarians.
My culture ate and used dogs until we were forced in living memory not to anymore, with no real alternative substitute emerging to replace them.
And when I asked a vegan on here for recipes and tips to become closer to eating vegan and they were like "idk google it"
So I'll get vegans shaming cultures like mine on here, as well as vegans who offer literally no help to become more like a vegan than not. I know how to butcher/cook/make clothes with dogs more than how to eat some veggies, and there isn't always support to balance that out and learn how to change my reflexes wrt eating meat vs veggie dishes.
Veganism is good, most vegans are good, some vegans are totally fucking insufferable and tone-deaf and they are their own worst enemy.
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I get that I guess. I understand that vegans get sick of, let's face it, the same shitty arguments and weird "le epic bacon bros" and this is basically an outlet for that. But this is /c/food.
It literally says, in the top corner.
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Am I totally missing the point? I thought this was just some silly teasing of our vegan comrades.
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Haha, you could replace pretty much this entire comment with, like, kids in cages, and you sound exactly like a fucking lib. "I'm fine with people posting about kids in cages, but harassing people is where I draw the line"
"If you change the words then it would mean something different"
Edit - I keep writing things and then feeling bad afterward lol
Honestly, if you are genuinely trying to change someone's mind then harassing people is literally the complete opposite way of doing things.
People are, on the whole, quite reactionary and protective of their lives. Telling someone that the way they think is wrong will often feel like an attack and, as good as it feels to dunk on someone, it will often make them stand by their beliefs even harder.
What do you think genuinely would help more people turn vegan? Statistics regarding emissions and water usage for farming, or calling someone who eats meat a bloodsucking carnist who consumes animal flesh?
That kind of stuff is all well and good in vegan spaces for having a laugh between people already in the culture but outside you have to be way more careful.
I turned vegan because people shouted at me that my behaviour was unethical and forced me to think. We do the same to people all the time. We dunk on chuds online because we're right, we know we're right, they're being ghouls. Omnivores just don't like realising they're doing the same with animal rights. I act like an asshole because I'm fucking angry. I'm so fucking angry that this is happening. And that people who are good people refuse to think this through and realise this. If you admit that animals have sentience, you can't morally justify eating them. And I'm not gonna coddle anyone until they realise that.
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Well first you would have to consider the ability to suffer as something you would want to avoid inflicting upon another being.
This is counter to the foundation of this website and anyone saying such blasphemy should be kicked back to r/politics
Also this is a vegan space :im-vegan:
Trying to change people's minds by being really nice doesn't work and has never been something this site does lol.
Demanding hog pics is fine but vegans need to be uwu wholesome or they'll hurt my feelings :(