Former democratic party activists are organizing Muslims and Arab-Americans in Swing states to vote against Biden with the demand that he support a ceasefire in Gaza.

I'll allow them a little bit of electoralism this time.

  • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    To me, the question is accentuated further when considering those people who willingly give up their suffrage which many others fought and died for. And further with the sentiment of "If voting didn't do anything, they wouldn't try to stop certain people from doing it".

    You should be embarassed to have written this. Withholding votes is only a strategy when you are able to vote. A person with no access to food cannot go on a hunger strike.

    Also, the saying that you are butchering was originally "If voting could change anything, they'd make it illegal".

    • synae[he/him]@lemmy.sdf.org
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      1 year ago

      Withholding votes is only a strategy when you are able to vote.

      Yes, I understand that - for the most part I am trying to understand the general consensus around here that "voting is silly lib behavior", so we as I understand it we are inherently talking about people who are able to vote, and the general recommendation that they should withhold their vote. If you want to include people who are not allowed to vote in a certain jurisdiction, I feel like that is a different conversation that I might not be equipped for (not to say I am feeling very equpped for this whole convo in the first place ;p ). But I'm happy to hear your thoughts regardless.

      Also, the saying that you are butchering was originally “If voting could change anything, they’d make it illegal”.

      Yes, I'm aware of that as well, others have riffed on it (or butchered, sure) to suit themselves and I was aiming for one of those variants I've heard in the past. Since it's a pithy aphorism, I don't find one particularly more true than another, nor that any should necessarily be taken literally. (I did say the "sentiment of" and I don't mind sticking with it)

      Cheers

      • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        for the most part I am trying to understand the general consensus around here that "voting is silly lib behavior",

        While you will get different responses, generally the consensus is "Voting for dems as well as worry about voting on a personal level is silly lib behavior" Voting for a third party and being involved in some organized effort to extract concessions are both fine.

        • synae[he/him]@lemmy.sdf.org
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          1 year ago

          I see, thanks. That was not a distinction I was aware of; it really did seem to me like third parties are also generally eschewed by this community.

          • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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            1 year ago

            Well, the community has open contempt for the Libertarians and the Greens, and which third party is best is a matter of conflict, but we have many supporters of the PSL and other socialist parties that do run for office (and I do indeed vote for them, personally).