Spent last night arguing with my liberal friends about Dems failing to pass min wage. Argued from the center left. Said Dem leadership needs to get its shit together and start getting the party in line. Otherwise theyre getting bodied in 2022 and never getting back in. They flipped out on me. Saying I was advocating for them to be just like Trump and the republicans.

Ive genuinely given up on them. I just dont get it. I dont know what to do. We're all queer and disabled. One of them constantly goes to protests and participates in her community. This wasn't even one of my hard left points. Like how the Dems are all psychos. Or the entire system is rigged. It was a genuine good faith argument about how the Dems need to change or we're gonna die. Im at a loss. How can you fix this?

  • space_comrade [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    At this point I'm like 90% sure the US needs to fall apart kinda like the USSR did.

    Yeah it would be absolutely terrible for the already marginalized people in the US but honestly I don't really see another way.

    • Dirtbag [they/them]
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      4 years ago

      :farnsworth: Good news everyone! it already is starting to.

        • Dirtbag [they/them]
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          4 years ago

          :ted-texas:

          edit: failing infrastructure, collapsing standard of living, botched coronavirus response, climate change, geriatric leadership, rising massve income inequality, multiple debt crisis (student, medical, rent), increased reliance on corps vs gov, violent uprisings, etc

            • Bedulge [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              There's probably not going to be a "big one". If you look at history, most large powers don't just suddenly collapse within like a year or so. It usually takes decades, even generations or centuries. Rome for example, the Eastern Roman Empire lasted for a long ass time after the western portion was gone. The peak of the British Empire was in the first half of the 20th century, and it's still a pretty major world power, albeit, a shadow of its former self. There wasn't just One Big Thing, it was just a slow decline over the course of decades.

              If you're expecting "the big one" to come along and then the US is gonna be fractured and irrelevant on the world stage within like a couple years, I doubt that's gonna happen.

            • Dirtbag [they/them]
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              4 years ago

              Yeah. It's never just one big thing, it's multiple pieces of the machine failing individually until the body finally collapses.

              Get a gun and/or get the fuck out of this country while you still can. Things are probably not going to get better here.