It’s a joke to point out cognitive dissonance. If you feel bad then maybe do some research, it’s the perfect time for self reflection and self discovery.
No vegans should be apologetic and walk around egg shells for being right. And vegans are right the same way socialists are right. It’s not my or any /c/vegan user’s personal responsibility to educate you, it’s yours. The thing is everyone here is already half way there. No one is denying that vegan diet isn’t better. That only makes it worse. Knowingly contributing to a larger institutional issue means that you’re not exempt from being made fun of.
Right or wrong, this attitude is literally what made and grew the original CTH sub when it had a few thousand users
There is literally no excuse not to be vegan for 99% of people on here.
This reminds me of a writing mentor (and myself tbh) who writes genuinely excellent novels but will never get published because he's an incredibly abrasive ass who refuses to temper himself and not tell his editor he's an r-slur who doesn't understand art, or repeatedly shit on his colleagues, etc.
He's right, but to act surprised that people don't want you around when you seem intent on making them feel bad (which has absolutely nothing to do with correctness; I believe vegans have moral highground) is disingenuous. I find the China-support annoying, to say the very least, but I temper my sectarianism because that's what's expected of me as part of this community.
And I will say I don't think "do your own research" works anymore in two years where people have given themselves mass psychosis via doing their own research.
If you feel bad then maybe do some research, it’s the perfect time for self reflection and self discovery.
It doesn't make me do any of those, it just makes me feel like you're a dickhead. The 9 months where i was a vegetarian before my doctor forced me off it, it started because my vegan friends were "Yeah it's not as easy as an omni diet, but it's doable, look at what we cook it's not that hard" and not calling me a bloodmouth or whatever.
No vegans should be apologetic and walk around egg shells for being right.
No one is saying that. Excluding a small number of users, most people's reaction was "Could you stop being massive dicks to people?"
you’re not exempt from being made fun of.
You know how when you're jokingly insulting each other between friends and it's all good, but somebody forgets to put a lid on it and it sometimes leads to a fight? So, yeah.
It’s a joke to point out cognitive dissonance. If you feel bad then maybe do some research, it’s the perfect time for self reflection and self discovery.
No vegans should be apologetic and walk around egg shells for being right. And vegans are right the same way socialists are right. It’s not my or any /c/vegan user’s personal responsibility to educate you, it’s yours. The thing is everyone here is already half way there. No one is denying that vegan diet isn’t better. That only makes it worse. Knowingly contributing to a larger institutional issue means that you’re not exempt from being made fun of.
Right or wrong, this attitude is literally what made and grew the original CTH sub when it had a few thousand users
There is literally no excuse not to be vegan for 99% of people on here.
This reminds me of a writing mentor (and myself tbh) who writes genuinely excellent novels but will never get published because he's an incredibly abrasive ass who refuses to temper himself and not tell his editor he's an r-slur who doesn't understand art, or repeatedly shit on his colleagues, etc.
He's right, but to act surprised that people don't want you around when you seem intent on making them feel bad (which has absolutely nothing to do with correctness; I believe vegans have moral highground) is disingenuous. I find the China-support annoying, to say the very least, but I temper my sectarianism because that's what's expected of me as part of this community.
And I will say I don't think "do your own research" works anymore in two years where people have given themselves mass psychosis via doing their own research.
It doesn't make me do any of those, it just makes me feel like you're a dickhead. The 9 months where i was a vegetarian before my doctor forced me off it, it started because my vegan friends were "Yeah it's not as easy as an omni diet, but it's doable, look at what we cook it's not that hard" and not calling me a bloodmouth or whatever.
No one is saying that. Excluding a small number of users, most people's reaction was "Could you stop being massive dicks to people?"
You know how when you're jokingly insulting each other between friends and it's all good, but somebody forgets to put a lid on it and it sometimes leads to a fight? So, yeah.
But vegans aren’t right