'but' is doing a lot of work in this sentence.

  • Chomsky [comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    Remember that guy that tried to download JSTOR and got sent to jail for like 10 years and then committed suicide?

      • cilantrofellow [any]
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        4 years ago

        they don’t make money

        Do you have any idea how much researchers usually have to pay for their article to be published?

        • LargeAdultSon [she/her]
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          4 years ago

          Oh and don't forget all the optional charges that can get stacked on top of that for extra pages, figures above a certain size, and other bullshit that shouldn't matter at all when none of this stuff gets physically printed anymore, anyway.

          It's also ridiculous that a lot of these charges are chalked up to "paper processing fees" when the reviewers and often even the editors are volunteers (who more often than not have to find time outside of office hours to do that, since most universities don't factor it into their academics' expected workloads).

          • cilantrofellow [any]
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            4 years ago

            Elsevier and Wiley execs will be among the first on the wall.

          • cilantrofellow [any]
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            4 years ago

            I mean money has a disgusting irrelevance in research when you have grants that build this in, but usually it ranges in the hundreds or thousands of dollars for publishing in major journals. Even more if it’s “open access” but I guess that would be expected.

        • TheCaconym [any]
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          4 years ago

          Aaron Swartz. He basically became rightfully pissed scientific publications were all paywalled by greedy vampire publisher companies and automated the download of the entirety of JSTOR from the MIT network, planning to publish them (basically make a sci-hub).

          They arrested him and basically wanted to give him 1 million in fines and 35 years (!!) in jail. As a result, thinking his life was ruined, he killed himself.