For my first Twitter Moron of the Week post, I’m gonna go with a dude named Sean McCarthy. Sean is the founder of the Grubstakers podcast, which is ranges from alright to mediocre. It’s kinda like TrueAnon but without the cool characters. Anyways, Sean is pretty much a succdem with sympathies towards social fascism. While many times his tweets can be funny, especially ones about conspiracy theories, something he is an enthusiast of, he also has a lot of what can be described as shit moments. These include this “bit” where he pretended to be a female Catholic trad in order to use as a shield to yell at AOC and call her a piece of shit for sharing her experiences after the January 6th thing. I put bit in quotation marks because he kept jumping between his not-that-excellent bit and the normal vitriol against AOC that he already did on the regular. He did this weird female thing before to make fun of a trans woman that he didn’t like coming out. So, that’s kinda how it goes for him? If you can’t tell this guy is big among the stupidpol crowd, surprise surprise.

Normally this guy cycles through his dumb class reductionist takes, but today he hit a new high/low with this double whammy.

https://imgur.com/a/k20jnHN

He’s talking about Incels in the dumbest possible way. Incels aren’t bad because they’re virgins. Incels are bad because they express frustration with their virginity in an incredibly toxic way. They lash out at women and blame them for their problems. This coddling of Incels doesn’t go anywhere and doesn’t solve the problem. Also, side note, maybe, just maybe, people aren’t calling Incels domestic terrorists because they’re virgins. Maybe it’s because they go into public places and gun down people, and then the incels on the forums celebrate them and fantasize about doing that same thing. Just maybe.

Check back in next Monday for my next post

    • Phish [he/him, any]
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      3 years ago

      Yeah it's kind of a stupid term. How long does one have to go without sex before they become an incel? I would think most people would like to be in a sexual relationship but it's not easy for everyone to just go out and get laid at will. That means they're celibate involuntarily. But at this point the term is only used in two ways: to insult people or to describe reactionary men who exhibit toxic behavior, especially towards women, as a result of their failed sex lives. Obviously the latter group's behavior is inexcusable and needs to be fixed. For people who are involuntarily celibate but still treat women with respect and work to improve themselves, hearing incel thrown around, or being called an incel, probably feels pretty shitty. I don't think it's constructive to lump those groups together and probably leads some people down the wrong path. There's absolutely nothing wrong with being a virgin and rejection takes a huge mental toll. Perhaps it would make sense to find a new term that focuses on their toxic behavior towards women and not on their inability to find sexual partners.

  • hauntingspectre [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    I used to enjoy Grubstakers (let's face it, it's a good premise for a show) until the show's overall vibe got annoying. Lazy research, meh humor, and worst of all, they couldn't go ten minutes without talking over each other.

    Then a few months later I started learning who Sean Mccarthy was, and I was pretty happy I'd already quit listening.

    • YungTheorist [he/him]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      Oddly enough I feel like I’d respect him more if he was just a shock jock instead of another podcast host on Twitter

  • grilldaddy [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    You know who else was busy "dunking" on this dude a couple of weeks ago? A spook in the daily beast with connections to the CIA, Koch Brothers and DHS. Glad hex discourse is keeping in lock-step with the CIA fear-mongering around the completely fictional red-brown alliance lol.

  • LibsEatPoop4 [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    the reason people hate incels is in the name- involuntary celibate.

    If they were Volcel there'd be nothing wrong with them.

    • YungTheorist [he/him]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      They’re not involuntarily celibate, though. That isn’t true.

        • YungTheorist [he/him]
          hexagon
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          3 years ago

          The idea that it’s impossible for these people to find love is a weird defeatist attitude that they all share. There are plenty of people out there that are single, they just need someone that’s a good partner. If you are repelling every potential partner, there could be a problem with you.

          • LibsEatPoop4 [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            they aren't looking for a partner, really. Just someone to fuck. Thats mostly cuz they're young and immature.

            • YungTheorist [he/him]
              hexagon
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              3 years ago

              Yeah. You just gotta smack them a bunch of times and yell at them and tell them that they need to get in order

              • LibsEatPoop4 [he/him]
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                3 years ago

                which is Jordan Peterson isn't just any other reactionary shithead, but actually evil. He sucks young men in with "Clean your room" and "stand up straight" then turns them into hating feminism, liberals, communism etc.

                • YungTheorist [he/him]
                  hexagon
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                  3 years ago

                  Yeah. He just makes their condition worse. I’m gonna sound like a dumbass but they should have a bunch of drill instructors yell at them for a while and make them excerise

                  • LibsEatPoop4 [he/him]
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                    3 years ago

                    I dunno about drill instructors. Like they just seem reactionary rightwing tough love paternalistic shitheads themselves. If anything they need strong female role models to show them why their idea of manliness can be harmful.

                    • YungTheorist [he/him]
                      hexagon
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                      3 years ago

                      I guess? They just need to be yelled at and told to stop being little shits

  • Malikto [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    They're not learning mating behaviors. That's the problem. They have a man's full sexual desire, and know absolutely no way of satiating it. Add to this our deeply programmed instinct to ostracize unworthy men until they flee from the tribe. Is it any wonder this is causing huge mental problems? Here's an interesting experiment about the topic.

    John B. Calhoun and the real Rats of N.I.M.H. Fascinating research that predicted the rise of hypersexuality, sociopathic elites, incels and ultimately the end, as young rats didn't learn courtship behaviors and could not breed. Afterwards the rats never again could reenter healthy society.

      • Malikto [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        It was the sort of thing that was passed down in families. Young men were taught mating behaviors by elders. There were matchmakers for those who fell through the cracks. But that's gone now, the chain was broken just like in the rats of NIMH. I don't know if incels even can get better after a certain age, the rats couldn't. How would you suggest we use the massive resources of our society to fix this problem? Right now we're just using old-fashioned ostracism and it obviously isn't working.

        • Arkhamasylumresident [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          I don’t understand how you’re going to speak ill of incel my dude. Quite frankly, a lot of the posts you make are extremely similar to things found on forums like lookism or incels.me. Don’t spread that bullshit ‘black pill’ shit around here. This forum has quite a few vulnerable people and that sort of misery inducing ideology has no place here.

              • Malikto [none/use name]
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                3 years ago

                Nope! You're just projecting. If these sites are so horrible, why do you spend so much time on them?

                  • Malikto [none/use name]
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                    3 years ago

                    acting like white people are the best looking on the planet shit.

                    I literally did not say that. You are literally making up things in your mind that I said and accusing me of what I didn't say. Sheesh.