:bordiga-despair: Unironically though I'm starting to realize that the tendency I find my opinions most alike is leftcommunism, not because it's what I'd advocate for, it's just that I'm a petty-bourgeois failson who ventured too deep into academia to truly relate to the working class struggle, so even though I would say the ML's have it right it's hard for me on a personal level to imagine how that style of working class organization should take place

    • jabrd [he/him]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      In the dumbest terms possible: leftcommunism is an orthodox understanding of Marx's original writings to the point of chastising more activist sects for attempting to pursue revolution before the material circumstances naturally create it, generally referring to them as "opportunists." For me it's more that I don't see how an ML party could pursue revolution before the material circumstances have sufficiently built to naturally generate working class insurrection (and I'd say Matt shares these beliefs if you watch the cushvlogs), but other sects rightfully make fun of leftcomms as "armchair lefties" because the thought process basically boils down to sitting on your hands until the revolution just shows up on its own.

      Like I said, dumbest terms possible so go do some of your own research, but I've already made the personal pledge to never effortpost on this site so this is the best you'll get

        • jabrd [he/him]
          hexagon
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          3 years ago

          Yea I agree, but like Marx wrote (I couldn’t find the original text) the petty-bourgeois who align with the working class struggle will be tag alongs not leaders in the socialist formation

          • dave297 [none/use name]
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            3 years ago

            Marx also thought communism would happen in Germany not Russia, he wasn't able to see the future

            • jabrd [he/him]
              hexagon
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              3 years ago

              Ye but I don’t think he was fundamentally wrong about class positionality structuring our understandings. I’m firmly in the camp that our material surroundings inform and decide our possible outcomes. Marx may have read the tea leaves incorrectly when it came to predicting where a communist revolution would occur, but it doesn’t mean his base analysis was incorrect

              • dave297 [none/use name]
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                3 years ago

                on the other hand we haven't had one successful communist revolution in an industrialised society but have had a few in peasant economies. Socialism itself tracing back to medieval peasant movements

      • PermaculturalMarxist [they/them]
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        3 years ago

        Have you ever read "What is to be Done?" or "Left-Wing Communism: An Infantile Disorder"? Just curious to know your personal thoughts seems you seem partial to Marxism Leninism but are maybe just cynical about things actually working out so that keeps you in the left-com camp.

    • richietozier4 [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      stfu dumb bitch doing nothing is vital to the revolution, now let me gorge myself to death on lasagna

  • leftofleft [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    Based. :bordiga-despair: First thing you need to know is that "leftcommunism" does not exist as a real movement. You do not want to be like the teenage Stalinist/Maoists/Dengists/Anarchists who LARP as the flagbearers of dead and/or revisionist ideologies. A simple reading of Bordiga's critique of "Actually Existing Socialism" (https://www.marxists.org/archive/bordiga/works/1952/stalin.htm) is enough to understand that "leftcommunism" is just communism, the original invariant critical science of the proletariat. We are not making up new ideas or modifying Marxism.

    Also, what do you mean by ML style of organization? Leftcommunists are not opposed to the dictatorship of the proletariat, the leadership of the class party etc. Our criticism of "MLs" is precisely that the USSR(post Lenin), China, Cuba, NK are NOT dictatorships of the proletariat and the ruling party is not a party of the proletariat. This criticism is a minor thing though, we don't live in those countries, nor does there exist any real movements in developed countries that tries to replicate whatever they are doing (thankfully). The criticism is only important to keep in mind in case any real movement starts picking up and opportunists come knocking on the door again, talking about state ownership, disarming the working class, class collaboration, "socialist commodity production", prioritizing the nation over the international, and other such nonsense. This is why its still a LARP to call yourself leftcom, when the "communists" we are opposed to dont really exist politically, and I doubt they will manifest. Opportunism in the West will probably come in the form of Vaushite liberalism, anarchism, social democracy etc, rather than state capitalism.

  • truth [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    Idk sounds kinda idealist to me but you do you. You're not a lesser communist because you avoided the stalinist iceberg.

  • comi [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    The great and authentic revolutionaries of the world are two: Mussolini and Hitler. But Mussolini's past shows that Il Duce has always been against the plutocracy and against the democracies, which paralyze the life of nations. :bordiga-despair:

  • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    A petite-bouge failson who ventured too deep into academia to relate to working class struggle leftcom? Never.