They're broken people and have shitty, idiotic, hateful politics- but with all the bullshit my parents have gone through and as far as they've come, they're strong, I don't mind being like them.

well don't tell me im not trying hard enough to fix my broken ass family especially after i've given you the details. i wont say it again, but im not sorry dude can go fuck himself. ima log off

Couldn't that be a demographic bias too? (like living in a lib city?)

How do you not want people to be chuds but encourage people to be chuds? Are you fucking stupid? What's wrong with you?

It was totally above the belt to tell someone that they're not trying hard enough to fix their broken, mentally ill chud family. Literally not my responsibility to make sure someone who has mental health issues doesn't say stupid shit like that.

Fuck yourself, I don't fuck with stupidpol or cowardly assholes like you.

You deserved it, maybe you shouldn't be talking shit about people and their families if you're gonna feign back to mental health issues. Classist son of a bitch coward.

I'm not a stupidpol user, and I'd rather be banned then deal with a fucking asshole like you. You're not an ally to the working class, just the cartoon ones you invisioned in your head who have coal smeared faces in Appalachia.

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You're the one who is afraid of fucking right wingers to the point that you won't talk to them AND LIKELY HAS NEVER EVEN KNOWN ANY. You fucking cowardly little idiot, no one is telling you to be their fucking best friend.

You can't fix a stubborn broken 70 year old man and a woman on anti-psych meds. It is futile, I have tried, I have been trying, fuck you for suggesting I didn't.

You're a real heartless piece of illiterate shit. Go fuck yourself. What a horrible fucking thing to say to a comrade you shithead. Please go fuck yourself and fuck all the people like you.

It's probably just the demographic of this sub, we (understandably) chase out bad opinion havers. I was a chud before I became a lefty.

My parents are poor dumb trump diehards, my mom is on anti-psychotics and my father was abused all through his childhood by an adoptive father who didn't want him. The conservative propaganda got my dad first way before I was born, and they have had him for decades. My mom is ill and just goes along with my dad. You could probably help my mom still but not with my dad around. I can't fix him at this point, he's old.

However, that being said, there's plenty of people that you can reach before they get to that point. But if you don't do anything at all you have a self-fulfilling prophecy.

I just hate when lefties can't see my families suffering and why they became the way they are. I tend to think it's because they learned about the shit through a book rather than actually having any hard shit happen to them, known anyone who actually has... or instead just have cartoon caricatures of what they might think a Appalachian coal miner might be like.

FYI, I said earlier that I agree that you should just avoid right wingers if you have certain minority statuses. And no one is making arguments for people who are too far gone unless you think everybody is a nazi then you're a fucking idiot.

How do you think that your run of the mill right wing people will figure out that brown and trans people aren't the problem? How does one do that if they don't ever really interact with either? Who has to pick up that slack if people with certain minority statuses can't do it themselves? They can't just magically do it, that's not consistent with the idea of material conditions. Obviously your cracker lefties have to put in the work. Literally no one else can.

Iunno arguing with your lib dad about biden and watching Hasan are what I imagine you do if you're the kind of lefty who never had to deal with any difficult situations

A bunch of other people agreed with me, surely there must be something to what I'm saying. I don't think it is right, that mostly white lefties, who come from middle class and rich backgrounds can just poopoo working class right wingers while simultaneously never actually interacting with them. How is that not classist?

Sorry, I will watch more Hasan, I will repent.

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Lmao jesus fucking christ the hyperbole no one is telling you to fucking be best friends with a nazi or Qanon dipshit

"all right wingers want to kill me :((((" my point fucking exactly

Why do you think they most of the people hold these opinions? Because they're evil? Because they're stupid? You're not better than anyone because you're a leftist.