Ignoring the consequences of the NM test on local populations, and omitting the part about Oppenheimer fighting for the bomb to be dropped on Japan are the parts of this article that stick out the most to me.

Started with wirebase.org because it's local, but there was a lot of downtime. Switched to lemmy.sdf.org because they're also local, but are also a really old group that still hosts Usenet stuff. I've recently learned that they have never defederated though, and so I'm considering leaving because I don't believe in giving a platform to obvious disinformation and hate campaigns.

I never argued there is content I don't like (although I guess that's implied, I don't like it. But I also don't like child porn?). Some of it actually is illegal, free speech has exceptions in the jurisdiction of SDF, but regardless of whether or not you believe that, I don't understand why anyone would want to remain federated with an unmoderated instance.

It's not about blocking content from my feed, it's about the instance not relaying that content. Maybe you would feel differently if it was child porn?

Then if SDF defederates from them, leave

What do you think a federation is? If you don't like the decisions of an instance you go to another one. If this instance defederates from rammy.site I'm staying, if not I'm leaving. You're free to leave if they defederate too, and if you felt the need to leave because of it I'd be happy to have you gone.

This is my daily reminder that there are many people on the internet who don't understand history. And also seemingly a lack of understanding of the word federation.

My far left campaign to defederate from an unmoderated compromised instance? Huh. I didn't know that had anything to do with political preferences. Are you trying to tell me that the right wing advocates for unmoderated instances and disinformation?

Let's not call defederating from an unmoderated server a war?

I seem to interpret that differently than you. I also read the common sense section, and felt that it supported my position.

This is the closest thing I could find that was related, can you send me what you found?:

Any illegal activities which includes, but certainly isn't limited to spamming, portflooding, portscanning, unauthorised connections to remote hosts and any sort of scam can really not be tolerated here. Why? Because there are many here on this system that can suffer from this sort of abuse. If you want to use SDF, you really have to care about this system and the people here. If you don't want to care, then you really shouldn't use this resource.

Edit: I somehow failed to copy and paste

>No, I do not care to and why would I?

No, I do not care to and why would you do that?

Let's not be like Reddit and comment essays without reading the article. That's why. You don't even know what you're arguing for if you don't look at it.

If I have to take extraordinary steps here to see it here, isn't that on me? Isn't the apparatus doing what it is supposed to be doing if I seek out a thing and find it?

It's been all over my all feed personally, maybe you just don't pay attention to where content is coming from?

going out of your way to find if there is something objectionable anywhere

See above

because other people might visit there directly instead of through federation

See above

Therefore, due to that situation, they should not have an DNS entry so you work on their Registrar to "deplatform" them.

No, I believe the internet is the utility. Unless actual crimes are being committed, they can have their websites. The key difference here is lemmy.sdf.org is relaying the posts from its own server, and therefore participating in spreading harmful disinformation. It's not like a telephone company that lets anyone call, it's like a newspaper that published anyone's articles, or a bulletin board at the library that doesn't moderate what's there.

I did read the FAQ before asking this, I did not take it to mean it's a policy of the server not to defederate.

Why does everyone keep thinking this is about political views?

It's part of the fediverse, but does not speak activity pub. So it won't ever talk to mastodon, kbin, or Lemmy

Is that a policy of this instance?

You're reading the situation wrong. Go to those instances and read what's there, it's not about free speech, it's active disinformation campaigns and propaganda. I would feel the same if it was extreme leftist propaganda. It's not about creating an echo chamber. I respect the right to free speech, but that isn't the same as allowing people a platform to systematically organize hate using falsified information. This is a situation where silence is complicity. Their instance continues to exist without us, their free speech continues, but by remaining federated we are giving them a platform.

It's not political difference, it's disinformation and propaganda. Just look, even if you're conservative you should be able to see how messed up it is unless you lack critical thinking skills

My point is that China has a capitalist market economy, and therefore it's not communism. Nothing to do with revisionism. Li's definition of capitalism seems to be narrow, I know it as the ability to own the means of production. If you can own a private company in China, and if that company can profit off of the work of people working for wages, I consider that capitalism. Xu Jiayin of Evergrande Group absolutely benefits from the work of people below him, and they are exchanging their labor for less than it generates. If you consider that to be a feature of communism, then we must have different definitions of communism

I did not say having rich people makes a country an aristocracy, not did I say China has done no good for the world. You assumed that.