Following the spirit of spreading across the Fediverse (and because my main instance is down so many times, because diverse reasons) I'm intrigued about the joining instance process, because I honestly don't know what criteria to have in order to join another one if I ever want to do it.
That made me curious of how you decided to join?
I firstly join to lemmy.fmhy.ml thanks to Spez and a Reddit post from FMHY subreddit, then the tragedy occurred, then I joined to lemmy.world which is/was my main one because I pictured it like a good home, then lemmy.fmhy.net revived and I am with them too, but seems like they are in a bit of trouble with the server, finally now I am in lemm.ee, but only because I just wanted another backup, not because I searched for it especially (also it was mentioned in a comment about smaller instances and one user from here throw a joke to not join here because it sucks so that way the server would be more stable, so yeah, I joined).
To be clear I am not in search for yet another instance (that sounds like a good instance name to be fair), I just want to know how the deciding process is for you, is it just random? Is it because of personal tastes?
I couldn't care less about NSFW stuff, I don't search for it specifically, but my day won't be ruined if I see a tit.
I like gaming, tech, Linux, SBC gaming, emulation, macOS, Android stuff etc (yeah how original) should I look for an instance dedicated to that if I ever want to join yet another one? Because I see topics like this in almost any instance.
I read you lemmings!
EDIT: BTW the migration process has been easier for me thanks to LASIM, so I wouldn't be scared if I ever want/have to migrate again.
I was on lemmygrad at first but then they banned me for being a liberal so now I'm on hexbear
Youre better off. Lemmygrad is like 90% Russian propagandists. Dudes think editing a commercial to whiten skin tone is the same as genociding children.
Reminds me of late stage 4chan and r/the_donald
Xi ate all my food with a giant spoon. It's true because the TV told me so. They are telling the truth just like they told the truth about MKUltra and Vietnam and those WMDs and-
Have you tried reading the thread? We were talking about lemmygrad.
But I've been seeing yall dipshits on hexbear brigaiding and doxxing people for the tamest shit so I wouldn't be surprised to see yall far behind.
ok I'll bite. Who's been brigaded, or doxxed, via hexbear? Our own users?
doxxing people
Literally where? I've seen people talking about the dweebs running lemmy dot world doxxing some random user that they thought was @ Carcosa on hexbear, but I have not seen even a single allusion to hexbear doxxing anyone until now, including from the sea of people who hate it.
I fucking love comments like this from people who have no clue that hexbear is mostly ideologically alligned with lemmygrad and then get dunked on for it. Here's a quote for you from a super scary man named Mao that you should learn to take to heart so you don't get dunked on like this (emphasis mine):
I. NO INVESTIGATION, NO RIGHT TO SPEAK
Unless you have investigated a problem, you will be deprived of the right to speak on it. Isn't that too harsh? Not in the least. When you have not probed into a problem, into the present facts and its past history, and know nothing of its essentials, whatever you say about it will undoubtedly be nonsense. Talking nonsense solves no problems, as everyone knows, so why is it unjust to deprive you of the right to speak? Quite a few comrades always keep their eyes shut and talk nonsense, and for a Communist that is disgraceful. How can a Communist keep his eyes shut and talk nonsense?
It won't do!
It won't do!
You must investigate!
You must not talk nonsense!
- Mao Zedong, Oppose Book Worship
So? I call out hexbear for being shitty in its own way too.
Just because one site is clearly a Russian psy-op doesn't mean the people who fell for the psy-op are in the same group.
Its funny you think there is some nuance im missing, but as is typical for the group in here triggered by my callout, you can't actually state the problem.
You have to shit on some theoretical point that nobody made.
His point is that Hexbear and Lemmygrad have the same stance on Ukraine:
NATO caused it by arming the nazis during the civil war and making US aid contingent on including the far right in gov't (instead of contingent on purging the nazis from the gov't and army), and then by continuing to arm them while they violated Minsk II and did literal pogroms. Western Ukrainian nazis were shelling eastern Ukraine right until the day of the invasion.
Every weapon we send to Ukraine is a bad day for someone, mostly civilians. Anything except ending western participation in the war as quickly as possible is sacrificing more blood of the workers for the profits of the bourgeoisie.
So let's just take all of this as a given.
How does this justify the genocide Russia is enacting on the people of Ukraine?
And again, I said this before in 2 separate comments but I'll say it here as well.
It's one thing to be an individual who has read and internalized Russian psyop content, it is entirely different to be a bad faith propoganda agent organized by the state.
The people I've engaged from hexbear are typically dipshit shitposters at worse, lemmygrad is clearly different.
If you spent any time checking out the messaging on 4chan and r/the_donald or any of the other Russian psyop sites, you pick up on some habits.
The most obvious example in the current conversation is lemmygrad hosting a sub called Ukraine war news that has 0 news on active events in Ukraine. Every post is meant to shape your thoughts using bad faith information presentation.
You wrote out your legitimate thoughts and included all details you find viable to discuss. These users know they are participating in bad faith and do so intentionally.
Its why some people get a respectfully written response from me while others are called coping dipshits.
How does this justify the genocide Russia is enacting on the people of Ukraine?
The US is not preventing a genocide, it is facilitating one. The whole succession thing was triggered by the Ukrainian state banning the Russian language and Azov & co doing wide-spread organized violence against Russian minorities, backed by the state, in Eastern Ukraine.
all that other shit you wrote
get over yourself.
The most obvious example in the current conversation is lemmygrad hosting a sub called Ukraine war news that has 0 news on active events in Ukraine.
The community became more general about NATO activities in general because we changed the display name to “Death to NATO” which you would know if you visited !ukraine_war_news@lemmygrad.ml.
With all due respect, some of your comments are giving off the vibe that you would have accused anyone who wanted to stop the Vietnam War as being Russian propagandists.
the genocide Russia is enacting on the people of Ukraine
Whatever you might think of the war, Russia is not committing genocide unless you hold invasion of an inhabited territory as being synonymous with genocide due to civilian casualties. Even if you think the invasion was completely in the wrong and Russia has an inconceivable amount of blood on its hands for everyone who has died, that still would not make it a genocide. The only people who push that kind of story are absolute rubes and people trying to connect it to the myth of the holodomor
sure thing, you definitely made that comment knowing what hexbear was. If you thought hexbear was really that shitty, you wouldn't have said it's better to be on there than on lemmygrad??? They literally post more news about the conflict than lemmygrad does, absolutely baffling behavior to say that lemmygrad is the psyop and not hexbear (it's delusional to say it's a psyop either way)
You could just read the older comments where I discussed hexbear?
Cope dumbass.
It takes all of 10 minutes to open up lemmygrad, see disinformation campaigns such as titling a sub Ukraine war news then trying to fill it with news on NATO being the cause of the war.
I did, you posted in their games comm, made that dumbass response in this thread, started getting shit on, then you started shitting on hexbear, pretty clear timeline of events for me
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What? Lol you have a whole headcannon to lean on as a coping mechanism
I guess if you're just going to make shit up there is no point in further engagement
you told me to look at older comments, and I did? accuses me of cope, sends one of the worst coping comments I have ever seen. A headcanon isnt me spending about 30 seconds looking through your comment history
Sure bud. Why don't you comment on the chain you are referencing then? Or source it?
I can't link directly to some because you and gaveup got comments removed which breaks the whole shit, but you respond to her comment with this shit:
https://lemmygrad.ml/comment/1426661 (why tell someone they're better off at a place that you now supposedly always knew was as bad as lemmygrad is beyond me)
I think she responded to you with this comment:
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in which case you responded with this:
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she responds with this:
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which is where you respond with this, at which point you still haven't brought up hexbear's supposed shittiness
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then, hours later, you respond with this: https://lemmygrad.ml/comment/1431336
quite easy to see why I think this actually
This is nothing like what you were crying about lol.
I did, you posted in their games comm, made that dumbass response in this thread, started getting shit on, then you started shitting on hexbear, pretty clear timeline of events for me
Not a single thing you sourced is a games com, and yes I did describe hexbear in earlier comments that I told you to check.
Good job finding the thing I told you to find but shit job finding the thing you claimed existed.
Cope harder dipshit.
https://lemmygrad.ml/comment/1415580 this you?k note carefully the @hexbear.net at the top of the comm
can you source a comment shitting on hexbear before they started dunking on you? the first comment I see you shitting on them is the one I already linked https://lemmygrad.ml/comment/1431336
What are you even on about? You literally are sourcing the referenced comment on my hexbear thoughts, although there were approximately 3 more.
My first criticism of hexbear was written when only 1 other response was here, and the gaming link you shared has me being upvoted.
I even defend hexbear by stating similar things as that criticism in one of the first comments in this thread. My views are consistent, there are dipshits in it as well but it's not a Russian psyop. I even have a hexbear linked account.
My entire point here is lemmygrad is garbage because it is a state organized psyop, but hexbear isn't so its valid.
I directly stated in the 3rd comment in this chain this same shit.
You're stupid af and desperate to find something to grasp and cope with.
Absolutely insane, please elaborate why you think lemmygrad (which had fucking 300 active users over a period of 6 (six) months before the
fiasco, and was founded in 2019, 3(three) years before all the propganda wars truly started in earnest) is a psyop and not hexbear which is infinitely more active and posts more about Ukraine and the war than we do (and I want the minimum amount of sourcing like I put into my comment. Like, have you ever looked at their news megathread???Regardless, maybe you don’t understand my claim. I think you developed these opinions of hexbear after they started shitting on you, which my reasoning is that you shit on lemmygrad for something that should be equally if not more applied to hexbear if you did more than 5 minutes of looking around. My point of linking that comment is that you never displayed any disdain for hexbear on a public comment before their users started shitting on you
This is the funniest shit I've seen all day, thank you lmao
If I'm glue does that mean we're stuck like this now?
Shit
Weird, I didn't see a single pro trans post, I only saw hateposting
I did see the typical Russian disinformation headlines that linked to garbage.
Strange toggle ypu made there. I guess being pro trans for 1 post justifies endless hatred and violence to all other groups amiright?
And being pro trans shouldn't be a bragging point, that's called bare minimum lol
Weird you're so defensive about the instance that's full of Kremlin agents lmao
banned me for being a liberal
Explains why they've completely ignored my registration request, only wanted to learn more about socialism over there since my instance is defederated from them. Oh well 🤷♂️
There are people on Hexbear who would positively love to talk with someone curious to learn if you post a thread on c/askchapo and try to be unassuming about things.
You’re not banned on Lemmygrad.
We get a decent amount of bad faith people, and it’s possible mods mistook you for that. Use the search bar to look for answers we’ve already given to some of these questions, and use federation to explore Lemmygrad :)
That’s what I did before making my account request there!
Come for the dirt bag leftism, stay for the aggressive anti-bigotry initiatives and correct takes.
For those who don't know who this is, read here: https://archive.org/details/transliberationb0000fein
I’ve been on Hexbear the entire time. It’s inclusive, yet has zero tolerance for reactionary attitudes.
Also since federation we actually have been complaining the quality of posts we see have gone down. You all lack an energy that made r/cth and hexbear such a breath of fresh air.
From my perspective, most hexbear users seem to have a very noticeable but different energy entirely. Although I think that's mostly down to (most) of you guys moving from reddit to HB and then curating your own space there with all kinds of bells and whistles, communication styles, communities etc.
Aside from the (very high) usage of emotes, theres something about the posts that make it really noticeable
We're an old instance by lemmy standards, and have been really active for several years. We had a big boom after the
CTH banning, and then just kind of got left to our own devices for a few years. The site developed a much more distinctive culture than most other places because of that--it feels more like an old message board from the 90s or 00s than a modern social media site. It's great.I think one thing that stands us out among other spaces on the internet is rejection of common referential humor, this space almost demands you develop your own thing, and enjoy our beautifully curated collection of emotes
Also our moderation is pretty top notch, and you get a sense it’s okay to fail here. It gives you a fearlessness. Like, we dont make small dick jokes here about people we dont like because we dont want to hurt anyone who does have a small dick in the community, also because it reinforces bs masculinity tropes. So this means we have to approach from new angles and this limitation fosters a creativity in us. And I think you can have this too, with enough time.We dont all like lazy humor or really cheap shots, and cherish bits and running jokes with each other. Have you seen our owl? It’s very dirty.
I am also a communist but I don't want to be on a widely defederated server.
that's totally valid! I spend 95% of my time on lemmygrad (and now hexbear) comms anyways, so it doesn't really matter to me other than being annoying when I have to make sure I'm not wasting my time commenting something to a user of a defederated instance
Back in the day, there was an instance called GTIO where 80% of the posts were from two instances that had later defederated from each other (lemmy.ml and Wolfballs). That one was a pain, you just had to make an alt to really use it.
He may have been stopped at Harper's Ferry, but his soul goes marching on
I'm so thankful I was able to lifeboat during the Discord Interregnum and land safely on these shores
Been here on Chapo chat, now hexbear since the beginning. Joined before federation was even a thing. Only instance with mandatory pronouns, one of a few with good political takes.
Yep. Liberals defend Nazis with "muh freeze peach," but preemptively ban communists. Shows what their ideology actually is. Some stuff should be censored though. Like if you're a bigot, you should be banned from speaking (and also being alive).
Indeed, that was the instance defederated by lemmy.world.
Good for you to move!
i joined chacha as a lifeboat years ago when the CTH reddit got banned and stayed as it became Ursus hexagonalis. the lack of ads, the memes, irreverence for institutions combined with respect for humans, and the absolute god-tier emoji selection is what keeps me here.
also, the megathread topics are very interesting/informative as a People's History, since many of the stories come from the "periphery" for all my world systems nerds out there. living in the imperial core, the constant cacophony of cultural outputs and hegemonic discourses, i appreciate any channel that connects me with post-colonial narratives, critical theory, etc.
I just showed up one day. I'm pretty sure these fuckers kidnapped and brainwashed me into their weird cult.
I was on r/chapotraphouse before we got banned from Reddit. I joined chapo.chat after it was made by old r/cth users, and chacha became hexbear.net like maybe a year later.
I’ve just been here since CTH got binned.
I have no plans to look anywhere else. I think federation is a fad, and I won’t participate elsewhere.
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