Xenophile [none/use name]

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  • Xenophile [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    So I had a whole reply typed up, but the site is acting up.

    I'll just say that, in the lore, Weyland is a successful Anglo-capitalist company. Great innovations that make life better for everyone, and makes a killing in the process, but still goes bankrupt. It's then bought by Yutani, a rising Japanese conglomerate. Weyland-Yutani then goes on to swindle and basically subserviate the US government. I see that as an Orientalist trope at the root of the cyberpunk genre (not the aesthetic).

    So, yes. Alien did latch on to Orientalist trends in contemporary sci-fi. However, Weyland-Yutani is presented as basically Anglo-American in the franchise and it delivers a strong anticapitalist message without ever demonizing Asians. Come to think of it, I don't recall any Asians in the movies... Oh well. I'd say it's disputable. I would call it Orientalist, though derived from cliche instead of racism. I understand if other's don't think that bit of lore makes it Orientalist.


  • Xenophile [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    Thematically, Alien is cyberpunk. You have the megacorps, government take over by said megacorps, the orientalism, the techno-pessimism, the class divides, poverty, social decay, etc.

    What's different is mainly aesthetics, which makes sense. It's in space, not a crowded city. Most of the settings are isolated and industrial, so they won't be lit up with neon and bright advertisements. The criminal/vagrant underclass that's ubiquitous in cyberpunk isn't going to be invited into these sensitive facilities, so even the janitors are more boujee than you'd expect to see on Earth.

    We see ecological collapse, mass communication technology, and other traditional cyberpunk elements (including cybernetics, iirc) elsewhere in the extended universe, though not in the main films. The internet doesn't really work in space when signals take years to reach their destination, but an automated retinal display beaming propaganda directly into your eye, automatically flipping channels until it senses that you're sufficiently mesmerized by the newest cult sermons does appear in some of the old comics.





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