Idk if this is the right place but I'm posting anyways. Idk what I'm posting, but I'm posting it anyways.

So someone on The Bad Website came up with the brilliant idea of updating the Orientalist racism underpinning the cyberpunk genre (yes, Aliens is cyberpunk, don't @ me, or do, happy to discuss) for the 21st century and I thought the idea of a Musk-Xinping partnership was funny. After all, Musk is a socialist /s

Also wanted to ask if there's any other Alien fans on here. Trying to set up a Discord RP.

  • jabrd [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Man I so disagree with your take that Aliens is cyberpunk. It doesn't have any of the traditional aesthetics or much of the technology associated with the genre. For all we know the internet doesn't exist in the Aliens universe and everything is just using radio waves across space. Sure there's the androids, but the cybernetic technology is wholly separate from real people. We don't see Ripley with a cyborg arm or any sort of tech built into her head. The androids work more as an allegory of the bio-tech fusion being totally alien to humanity (which is further reinforced by the biomechanical aspects of the xenomorph and the alien ships) than as a transhumanist theme like in most cyberpunk works.

    I don't see how it could fall under that category but I'd love to hear your take on why you think it should

    • Xenophile [none/use name]
      hexagon
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      4 years ago

      Thematically, Alien is cyberpunk. You have the megacorps, government take over by said megacorps, the orientalism, the techno-pessimism, the class divides, poverty, social decay, etc.

      What's different is mainly aesthetics, which makes sense. It's in space, not a crowded city. Most of the settings are isolated and industrial, so they won't be lit up with neon and bright advertisements. The criminal/vagrant underclass that's ubiquitous in cyberpunk isn't going to be invited into these sensitive facilities, so even the janitors are more boujee than you'd expect to see on Earth.

      We see ecological collapse, mass communication technology, and other traditional cyberpunk elements (including cybernetics, iirc) elsewhere in the extended universe, though not in the main films. The internet doesn't really work in space when signals take years to reach their destination, but an automated retinal display beaming propaganda directly into your eye, automatically flipping channels until it senses that you're sufficiently mesmerized by the newest cult sermons does appear in some of the old comics.

      • Deadend [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Prove that Blade Runner and Alien aren’t part of the same sprawling universe.

        The main difference is the Replicants are more human on the inside than the Androids in Alien.

        Didn’t the crew of the Nostromo have to take a multiple year detour to check on the Alien stuff and they weren’t trained for it and they wouldn’t be compensated? That’s cyberpunk.

        • jszirm [she/her,xe/xem]
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          4 years ago

          One of the extras from one of the movies places them in the same universe. Alien is very much "high tech low life." Shitty working conditions aboard a space ship ship that is run down and kept in barely functioning order? Yeah that's cyberpunk.

      • jabrd [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Fair enough. I wasn't considering anything outside of the first two films, and I guess I can see your point considering what I remember from the few comics I read in the extended universe