Two layers of electrified, barbed wire, with armed guards to keep a colony secure. Colonialism has never actually ended

  • Sen_Jen [they/them]
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    4 years ago

    Northern Ireland has been thoroughly colonized by the British. It was established in such a way that it would be large enough to make the unionists dominant. Letting the northern Irish decide whether to remain British or Irish will lead to them choosing British, because many are the descendants of British colonisers and still benefit from British colonialism today.

    So why should a colonising population be allowed to decide which state they belong to? Would it be fair for the American settlers to decide whether the land they conquered was native or American? Why should the colonisers be allowed to decide the fate of the colonised people's country?

    • camaron28 [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      As i fucking said. I know about Spain, not NI.

      Literally no one outside of this thread (filled with people who have just find out these cities exist) wants Melilla and Ceuta to join Morocco. Not the spanish leftists, not the people from the cities themselves, and not Morocco.

      Hell, listen to what the locals say instead of trying to bring anglo politics into everything.

      • Gayan [undecided]
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        4 years ago

        Its almost like you are ignoring the will of the people of Morocco who very visibly want to go in there, but citing Morocco's government will as if somehow legitimate.

        The same government that hunts down those attempting to jump over those butchery walls with valleys of barbed wire, to keep the economic relationship of their elites with Spain.

        Also you aren't a local of Melilla or Morocco, you were just born in one of the most vile colonialist empires this world has ever witnessed, and for unknown reason isn't ashamed of its terrible history. Your opinion on African land obtained during the colonialist period shouldn't be considered.

          • Gayan [undecided]
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            4 years ago

            When you cite Morocco, do you mean the people or the government?

              • Gayan [undecided]
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                4 years ago

                and not Morocco

                Why do you falsely state that the people of Morocco don't want to go in that area, when they very visibly do?

                  • Gayan [undecided]
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                    4 years ago

                    great argument. Good to know you oppose the will of the people of Morocco, but stand by what their government does.

                    You are the template colonizer spanish.

                    • camaron28 [he/him]
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                      4 years ago

                      WTF

                      No, the people of Morocco don't want Melilla, fucking idiot.

      • NeverGoOutside [any]
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        4 years ago

        “The locals” aka the people residing in the privileged, heavily fortified zones excluding millions of people? Haha sure. Let’s listen to what the Israeli sellers have to say about Palestine too!

        • camaron28 [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Lmao, priviledged???

          Holy shit, you didn't have to prove that you have never heard of those cities. They are among the poorest regions of Spain. DId you think they were like HK or what?

          Pathetic, read something before wildly commenting.

          • NeverGoOutside [any]
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            4 years ago

            Which side of the border is Ceuta and Melilla on? The side people are trying to get in to or get out of????