Edit: Lmao struggle session

  • effervescent [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    I don't believe in them either, but I do get super annoyed when people get smug about not believe, which is a whole other thing

    • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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      3 years ago

      It shouldn't be taken as default to think Halloween monsters and planet magic is real and I shouldn't be expected to play along

      • Edelgard [she/her]
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        3 years ago

        Yup. "Materialism is when I define my beliefs based on reaction against stupid things that are popular."

        • ComradeBongwater [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          Actual materialists understand the dialectics of reaction better than this.

          It feels like watching libs and chuds fight and the lib uses bigotry in a cringe-inducing attempt to debunk the chud. Like I have an opinion on the topic at hand, but you're both saying shit I absolutely object to.

          • Edelgard [she/her]
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            3 years ago

            My last comment is mostly a throwaway joke to be honest, but please link to anything on the dialectics of reaction you think would be interesting. I’m always up for learning something cool.

            • ComradeBongwater [he/him]
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              3 years ago

              Actual materialists understand the dialectics of reaction better than this.

              Lmao oof, didn't mean this to be interpreted as pointed at your response.

              I was commenting that materialists wouldn't readily adopt the reddit-brained reaction towards astrology because they'd understand the dialectical nature of the reactionary response.

              • Edelgard [she/her]
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                3 years ago

                Oooh, okay. No worries!

                I was honestly not expecting this much of a reaction to my comment because, well, who cares enough about astrology to actively hate it? That takes so much effort.

                • ComradeBongwater [he/him]
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                  3 years ago

                  That takes so much effort.

                  I don't think that's necessarily true and underestimates the existing brainworm populations in men.

                  Imagine being around a bunch of people discussing NFTs, but no one is acknowledging that NFTs are a bunch of property-brained bologne and just continues on as if they're real. And these people are, ironically or not, justifying their value assessments of others based on their "portfolio". For people not into astrology, being forced to risk alienation from the group by expressing disapproval at the premise underlying discussion, this often creates feelings of frustration...which is primer for creating fanatical hatred.

                  Discussions of astrology often create the same frustrations in me, and I have a relative discontent for the topic at large.

                  Misogyny is just the brain path of least resistance for many of these people. Backlash to anything perceived to be more enjoyed by women than men will inevitably take on a current of misogyny.

                  Most dogs don't understand dogwhistles to be a conditioning tool and "things women enjoy" becomes the whistle, raging at women is the "treat". Men very much have to stay on the look out for " is this intended to create feelings of resentment towards women?" because the dogwhistles are harder to detect when detecting them involves no longer being able to use it as a crutch for your bruised ego.

                  • Edelgard [she/her]
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                    3 years ago

                    Most dogs don’t understand dogwhistles to be a conditioning tool and “things women enjoy” becomes the whistle, raging at women is the “treat”. Men very much have to stay on the look out for " is this intended to create feelings of resentment towards women?" because the dogwhistles are harder to detect when detecting them involves no longer being able to use it as a crutch for your bruised ego.

                    You phrased this perfectly. Love the point about misogyny being the brainpath of least resistance.

                    • ComradeBongwater [he/him]
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                      3 years ago

                      Thanks! I could go on for days about how men's vulnerability is weaponized for both ideological purposes and profit and laundered through seemingly innocuous means.