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Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can, thank you.


Resources For Understanding The War Beyond The Bulletins


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map, who is an independent youtuber with a mostly neutral viewpoint.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have good analysis (though also a couple bad takes here and there)

Understanding War and the Saker: neo-conservative sources but their reporting of the war (so far) seems to line up with reality better than most liberal sources.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict and, unlike most western analysts, has some degree of understanding on how war works. He is a reactionary, however.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent journalist reporting in the Ukrainian warzones.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Yesterday's discussion post.


  • Frank [he/him, he/him]
    hexbear
    3
    2 years ago

    Does Russia have revanchist aims in Finland? I think the situation is very different there; Finland doesn't have a meaningful Russian ethnic minority, which was one of the causus belli for Russia. Finland also doesn't have a warm water port, and as far as I know is not a major transshipment route for Russian products going in the EU. I don't know what you'd do once you invaded Finland. Occupy Helsinki for some reason? Herd reindeer? There's only five million people in the country. The Russians already have a port at St. Petersburg. I'm not sure what strategic gain you'd get from invading Finland other than a lot of pissed of Finns.

    • jackal [he/him]
      hexbear
      1
      2 years ago

      Yeah I think you're on the mark, I don't see any particular gain for Russia from taking Finland. If anything I think the Finns would lowkey love to someday take back the Karelian territory including the city of Vyborg (Viipuri) which they ceded in WW2. I think the situation is more that a lot of center and right wing Finns think it was a mistake not to join NATO 30 years ago, and this is a lucky second chance.

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
        hexbear
        2
        2 years ago

        Did they have a referendum or something back in the day? Sucks when your government coups your government to join the Nazi Atlantic Treaty Organization when people aren't for it. I mean it sucks regardless but doing it all sneaky also sucks.

        • jackal [he/him]
          hexbear
          1
          2 years ago

          Should preface that I don't have extensive knowledge of Finnish politics, I only moved to Finland a few years ago. So I'm more of an outsider. I don't think there's ever been a referendum, but I think joining NATO would definitely get support if they did do a referendum. A polling agency does polling every year to gauge public opinion. (Title: Finland should join NATO. Green = yes, red = no, talvi = winter, syksy = autumn). After the Ukraine invasion, support jumped by like 30%, so that the president thinks a referendum isn't even necessary because it is already clear what the population thinks. Now support is at 76% based on May polling.

          So :shrug-outta-hecks: technically they'll join without a referendum but I don't think Finnish people will be upset. I think more of them were upset that some pro-Russian citizens had parades on May 9.