https://twitter.com/War_Takes/status/1546579298508750852?cxt=HHwWiICyibHrxvYqAAAA
The Rhodesia episode itself was good, but then I went through his tweets. of course he omits the NATO proxy war when discussing ukraine (framing it purely as a russian invasion that happened for no reason) in addition he had this lovely drivel where he responded to Luna Oi, saying she's "Denying the agency" of people in countries like Vietnam (her home) for noticing how often the US backs color revolutions. He's also quote tweeting himself while claiming "tankies" called him a "cuck" and presenting no evidence anyone said any of those things.
After this guy, and AdamSomething, I'm waiting for them to bring Vaush on and start complaining about "tankies" every episode. I'm starting to think the entire "Nate Bethea" produced podcast circuit: WTYP, Trash Future, Lions Led By Donkeys, 10K Losses, etc. is just social imperialist drivel. Nate Bethea and Joe Kasabian are both vets of the US invasion of Afghanistan (not conscripts, but actual fucking volunteers who fell for imperialist propaganda and now feel or pretend to feel some guilt about it) , and wouldn't you know it, every podcast Nate Bethea produces tows a tepid "both sides are always equally bad" line with regards to US imperialism. Joe Kasabian in particularly loves to play up Soviet atrocities with western sources like Montefiore and Snyder. Weird. Getting very disappointed in this shit. Chapo-adjacent pods, for all their faults, aren't nearly this bad when it comes to US imperialism.
Getting real tired of this line I see increasingly in media: Pointing out US hegemonic involvement is "denial of the people's agency". If you point out the US's specific involvement in this or that coup, this or that color revolution, this or that forced loan, this or that diplomatic pressure, no matter how specific you get, or how well-documented your sources, you get accused by liberals of "believing everything ever is the USA's fault." They apply a false broadness of scope to the specific historical point to discredit it.
The problem is Liam and if I could, can I just take a second to just whine about how much Liam sucks? I dont feel like he adds anything to the podcasts he's in. He's shitty and boring, which unlike a lot of the people most people here would complain about tend to be bad and funny. Dude has the most boilerplate :liberalism: takes about politics and just likes to make Roz bleep out the venting that is too hyperbolic for someone like him to actually do.
I cant speak about Nate Bethea being bad, I only started listening to LLBD and wasnt really impressed by him as I was Liam.
He says he was raised by principled marxists or whatever, but none of whatever he has to say about anarchism is grounded in any actual theory. Just aesthetics and vibes.
He just repeats bland anti capitalist stuff about 15 min into each episode, then fucks off. Whenever he chimes in later on, it’s only about like the eagles or a bland joke/story about roz that no one on the show laughs at.
His dad is a trot and has apparently dunked on him before.
Liam once said on air, without a trace of irony "my dad once asked me if I get my news from the CIA"
Lmao. That explains so much
simple. he's a veteran of an imperialist US war and he funds and produces all these podcasts behind the scenes. weird!
Produce yes, but fund? Come on dude. I got blocked by Alice on Twitter over China takes, it's a lot of them that are liberals, not just Nate
fair
i say "fund" because I figured he ran all the patreons and was responsible or the social networking that got them off the ground in the first place. but you're right that's probably an overstatement
Idk about their patreons, and you aren't wrong that he's involved with a LOT of podcasts
Oh what's that Liam? you'd like to do something legally actionable and horrendous to the people around you? You literally have nothing pleasant or informative to say, and have the personality of a goat? You joke/talk about therapy, but in a way that makes us doubt that you're actually serious about addressing whatever obstacles you might have? Haha, well let's move on.
fr though, I think WTYP is kind of an unserious project amongst Liam and Roz who are friends and also Alice because she's a weirdo, and determined podcaster. Liam sucks, but it's easy to imagine him being onboard, not to endorse or support his shitty anarchist views, but because he needs to be included with something. Like, he's got mental problems and maladaptive behaviors, but Roz and Alice letting him podcast with them is nice and sociable, which I can't not endorse.
its funny or cathartic once or twice, but afterwards its just pathetic.