• BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    You can always tell people who have no real experience with the contemporary reality of working. They drop shit that hasn't existed for most people forever like 9 to 5

    • KiaKaha [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Yeah, the weirdest part about 90s/00s culture is the idea that a stable desk job in an air conditioned office is the worst thing ever.

      • Catherine_Steward [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        I mean that genuinely does suck when you're doing it. The fact that many other people have worse jobs doesn't change the fact that if you spent 10 years pretending to be an important businessman at the business factory you'd feel like a drained, soulless husk too.

        We've all got it shitty in this fucked up system. The only ones winning are the rich and even those fuckers manage to be miserable lmao

        • ShittyWallpaper [they/them]
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          2 years ago

          Desk work in an office was the most performative, exhausting thing I’d ever done. I remember starting factory work and having it fucking reshape my body worse than the start of any workout I’d ever tried. Like the physical demand of it was brutal. But there were no weird stigmas about talking to people or not talking to people. I didn’t feel like I had to pretend to work when we weren’t busy. My boss didn’t feel the need to constantly imply that I might lose my job. I never questioned whether what I was doing was useful.

          And with factory work, my body eventually caught up. I got in shape and even though I was physically tired at the end of the day, my brain was alright and I could myself to do a load of dishes or spend some time with my kids. Even when I was exhausted, I knew I had a good reason to be. For some reason, sitting in an office chair doing nothing for 8 hours is incredibly taxing. I’ve corroborated that with so many people. It’s bizarre. Office work turned me into a shell of a person. I was in a brain fog for months at a time with only a few hours of reprieve, just enough to remind me what being normal felt like and that I was depressed.

          Edit: may be relevant that I’m autistic. Office culture does seem to be designed for someone, just certainly not for me. And honestly whoever it’s designed for can fuck off out of principle

          • Catherine_Steward [she/her]
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            2 years ago

            My last job was like this weird combination of both. We were in a food packaging plant with heavy machinery active all the time and no air conditioning (so like 100+ degrees at all times) doing hard manual labor for a total of like 2.5h each 8h shift. My direct supervisors didn't really give a shit if we were doing anything for the rest of the time, but we still had to either hide or pretend to work for the rest of the time, and we absolutely could not make any mistakes about it whatsoever. like you might literally be sitting around with nothing to do from 10 to 2, but if 2:02 comes around and you're still not doing anything but across the entire facility some work finally opened up at 1:59 well you're gonna have a fuckin meeting where they shout and threaten to fire you and accuse you of being lazy and shit

            have they considered actually doing their jobs as supervisors and letting us know when work opens up? no. of course not. we've just gotta know.

            absolutely fucked

            edit: just to spell it out as well (because its so ridiculous) they literally just expected us to be walking circles around the facility with a broom in hand for hours on end. that way we'd know when finally there was something to do. :agony-shivering:

            • ShittyWallpaper [they/them]
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              2 years ago

              It’s infuriating because if that business were worker owned, you would clearly not organize things that way. You’d designate someone to round everyone up once the work comes in. Maybe rotate that out. Split up clerical work. Or just shorten working hours. What you’ve described sounds like hell

      • KobaCumTribute [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        It's hollywood writers trying to think about how boring it must be to do anything other than be a writer and then being like "uh, what do they do again? they clock in at the business factory and stress over, uh, the scripts reports? presentation? what is it like a college course but with cubicles and more alienation? I was always worried about big papers and shit like that, so that's probably it. whatever they do, yeah that's gotta be the most stressful thing in their lives yeah" because they're a bunch of alienated ivy league failchildren churning out cookie cutter corporate drek to try to create something relatable to middle class suburbanites.

    • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      9 to 5 never existed unless your workplace skips lunch. An average office job is 8 to 5, 8 hours plus the one hour lunch, proving like you said how they're completely out of touch with even white collar office workers.