• bbnh69420 [she/her, they/them]
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    I'm usually those users lol, but Iran's protests just seem like the result of a conservative society with unaccountable cops, rather than the color revolution some are calling it

    • Commander_Data [she/her]
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      Yeah, the young woman who died was Kurdish, the protests started in Kurdistan, and the Kurds will happily revolt against the Ayatollah without any help from the CIA. Frankly, the hexbear line that any antipathy towards a regime unfriendly to the US must be due to outside influence is pretty dismissive of the agency of oppressed people.

      • AssadCurse [none/use name]
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        any antipathy towards a regime unfriendly to the US must be due to outside influence is pretty dismissive of the agency of oppressed people

        Why aren’t you considering the lived experience of Miami Cubans and the Falun Gong? It’s pretty dismissive to the agency of oppressed people. You privileged white leftists should stop talking over POC :fedposting:

          • AssadCurse [none/use name]
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            2 years ago

            Nope, but made up narratives that incite civil unrest in our enemies almost certainly involve CIA and US empire media perpetuating them

            • Commander_Data [she/her]
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              2 years ago

              Yes. A healthy 20 year old woman dies from COVID, a deep cover CIA asset bribes her family to say her body was bruised and manages to orchestrate near country wide protests is definitely the most likely scenario. You've cracked the code! Fucking CommAnon is real.

              • AssadCurse [none/use name]
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                People die randomly from medical ailments all time, even young healthy people.

                Then western aligned comprador media groups and NGOs all get ahold of the random death and start to weaponize it for their own agenda.

                Western mainstream media picks it up and perpetuates it.

                CIA calls in their favors with all their assets within Iran to start pushing discontent.

                It’s not that complicated, it’s what happened in Hong Kong. You sound like a credulous liberal

                  • AssadCurse [none/use name]
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                    Better than a NPR lib who regurgitates NED propaganda

                    Again, reminding everyone here this woman did not die of “police brutality” and this entire crisis is FAKE

                    • Commander_Data [she/her]
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                      Oh man. You put fake in all caps, it must be true. Oh no, you called me an NPR lib, how will I ever recover? How many alts are you on at this point, Serbian MILF, I mean Zposter? What a life. Banned from Twitter, banned multiple times from this site. Maybe the world is trying to tell you something.

                      • AssadCurse [none/use name]
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                        Whatever convoluted narrative you need to weave to ignore the plain and simple evidence in front of you that you fell for propaganda and refuse to admit it

                        Who’s this zposter? Sounds based

                        • Commander_Data [she/her]
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                          You're the expert in creating narratives. Your hatred for the US has blinded you to any other possibility other than a CIA plot. People who live in countries that are not under the thumb of the US can be upset with their leaders. They're allowed to demonstrate against those governments. Regardless of whether or not the woman's death was causes by police those are real people, with real grievances. Do you know and Iranians? I do. We've had long talks about how the revolution was co-opted by the Islamists and that there are many people in Iran who are not happy.

                          • AssadCurse [none/use name]
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                            They’re allowed to demonstrate against those governments.

                            I’m not talking about them, I’m talking about you and the other chauvinists in this thread repeating lies. You are not allowed to join in on imperialist intrigues against nations your empire is at war with. That’s chauvinism.

                            Regardless of whether or not the woman’s death was causes by police those are real people, with real grievances.

                            Ok, and there’s nothing you can do to alter the situation in Iran except join the imperialist mob of your own empire

                            Western leftists want to imagine themselves as platonic universal creatures able to cast judgment from the heavens. You are a material, specific creature from a specific political region

                            • Commander_Data [she/her]
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                              So the people demonstrating aren't the problem, it's us western leftists besmirching the reputation of the Iranian moral police? Your main concern is the cops. Very cool.

                              • AssadCurse [none/use name]
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                                The problem in this thread specifically is you and the other users repeating western lies and getting embroiled in pro-American imperialist intrigue.

                                My main concern is your social chauvinism and narrative bolstering of imperialism

                                • Commander_Data [she/her]
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                                  So supporting the people in Iran that want to be free of the theocracy is pro-american social chauvinism? Self-determination is now imperialism? What?

                                  • AssadCurse [none/use name]
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                                    Supporting it from America or the west, while your empire has its crosshairs trained on Iran, and making up stories - yes that is chauvinism

                                    wow are you a Saddam supporter?!? You don’t support saving the lives of the babies in incubators? You don’t support the Iraqi people overthrowing tyranny???

                  • Mrtryfe [none/use name]
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                    2 years ago

                    Sounding like Alex Jones is when you consider American foreign policy since the turn of the 19th century

      • bbnh69420 [she/her, they/them]
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        True there's a tendency to oversimplify overseas domestic conflict, and also that exact line, about the denying the agency of chosen dissenters has been specifically weaponized to give cover for regime change ops, most recently, to my recollection, in Bolivia and Cuba. You're still correct imo in this case

        • AssadCurse [none/use name]
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          How are they correct in a case that’s literally made up? Video evidence shows she collapses due to a medical reason and there was no evidence of police brutality.

      • ElGosso [he/him]
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        Frankly, the hexbear line that any antipathy towards a regime unfriendly to the US must be due to outside influence is pretty dismissive of the agency of oppressed people.

        This is the same line that libs trout out every time there is a color revolution