Struggle session engage. Post your pathetic arguments so that I and the other China Good Posters can dismantle them and you can learn.

Key points:

  • China is a democracy. It is arguably the most functional and responsive democracy in a major country today. Its citizens consider it more democratic than the citizens of almost any other country do their own.

  • China is on a clear path to socialism and economic justice. No nation in history has ever reduced poverty in anything like the way China is doing it.

  • The vast majority of people in the PRC support the CPC. This is not due to being brainwashed. Americans are brainwashed and still hate their government.

  • Almost everything you hear about China in the West sits on a spectrum between malicious misrepresentation to outright fabrication with no basis in reality.

  • China's ascension to the premiere global power is an extremely good thing for world peace and the global socialist movement. While China does not actively support other socialisms (sadly it's not as good as the USSR in this regard) it does not do imperialism. China will allow socialisms around the world to flourish simply by not actively crushing them like the US and Europe.

  • Nagarjuna [he/him]
    5·
    4 years ago

    So, China is clearly better than the US, considering that workers in BRI countries complain about price dumping, but countries in the American sphere complain about death squads. That said, we need to listen to workers and socialists who aren't in power. The NPA says they're getting shot with Chinese bullets. Workers in China still go on strike. Class struggle still exists in China, even if the state and party buffer it.

    Now, call me old fashioned or internationalist, but our loyalty isn't to socialist states, but to the global working class (and the non working, but still dispossessed.) This means supporting China against the US, but also supporting Chinese workers against their bosses and the cops who back them up.

    • DasKarlBarx [he/him,comrade/them]
      1·
      4 years ago

      Now, call me old fashioned or internationalist, but our loyalty isn’t to socialist states, but to the global working class (and the non working, but still dispossessed.) This means supporting China against the US, but also supporting Chinese workers against their bosses and the cops who back them up.

      This shit right here. :Needle-inject:

      • Doc14 [she/her]
        1·
        4 years ago

        Yeah we need more support for the workers of China, remember American corporations are still in China, and Apple factories there still have suicide nets, etc.

        • Mardoniush [she/her]
          1·
          4 years ago

          But lower rates of suicide than American workers. There were 14 suicides in the article that first broke the suicide nets story. To match the American suicide rate there would have to be 110 suicides there per year.

          • Doc14 [she/her]
            1·
            4 years ago

            Yes, it's true, American workers have much higher rates of suicide because hellworld, etc. Still we should have international solidarity.

    • Niqq25 [he/him]
      ·
      4 years ago

      This right here is my take on it better than I could have ever said