I thought we all loved our trash raccoon. Didn’t he own Peterson?

  • LiberalSocialist [any,they/them]
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    1 year ago

    How’s he reactionary? I’m serious. I don’t know shit about him other than the memes but this is like suddenly hearing Chomsky or Parenti are reactionary anti-commies.

    • ElChapoDeChapo [he/him, comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      I'm not calling Zizek reactionary, I'm saying that if we like him for dunking on Peterson in a vacuum without looking at the bigger picture we're being kinda reactionary

      Like :funny-clown-hammer: has debated and dunked on fascists before but we still hate him for being a neoliberal pedo

      Similarly supporting the Democrats just because they oppose the Republicans is barely any less reactionary than chuds supporting Republicans for trolling the libs

      The entire political spectrum in :amerikkka: is reactionary because no one actually stands for anything other than trolling their enemies and it's easy to fall into that kind of thought

      Then again I don't really know what the fuck I'm talking about, someone else can probably say this better than I

      • NephewAlphaBravo [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        That doesn't sound like reaction in the reactionary sense, it sounds like just partisanship or contrarianism.

            • Ram_The_Manparts [he/him]
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              1 year ago

              It was an honest question, I'm not trying to start anything here.

              Calm down, this isn't :reddit-logo:

              • HoChiMaxh [he/him]
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                1 year ago

                To be conservative is to want to conserve society in its current form. If you live in the US, this describes the moderate wing of the Republican party and the right wing of the Democratic party, but mostly the latter.

                The term reactionary refers to a position to the right of mere conservation of the status quo. If implies your political vision is a negative reaction to the advances the left has achieved, hoping to roll them back to reestablish a more exploitative society.

                This does not describe Chomsky. His criticism of AES is not from a position of wanting more exploitation, but less. You might describe this position as ultraleft, or just orthodox anarchist.

                It is fair game to criticize this perspective, but it is not fair game to call it reactionary. (You could make an argument that ultraleft positions strengthen reactionary positions etc etc, but it's still a stretch to call the people that espouse them reactionary)

                Also Avatar 2 was better the second time

              • HoChiMaxh [he/him]
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                1 year ago

                Watching Avatar 2 again, I'll respond when it's finished