"R U TRIGGERED" and all its subvariants were radioactive toxic waste and turned a valid and important psychological concept into bullying vector that for a time had nearly universal acceptance.
I still see vestiges of "le epic bacon" out there but it's mostly confined to aging :grillman: types and some :up-yours-woke-moralists: cultists and a few contrarian carninist edgelords that want to "trigger the vegans." Yes I know all of the above have a lot of overlap.
Reddit atheist DAE THEISTS ILLOGICAL type
The reddit variety maybe was bad, but considering the resurgence in religious conservatism, at least on the internet, vocal atheism may need some kind of comeback.
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Sam Harris intensifies
https://existentialcomics.com/comic/other/2
https://existentialcomics.com/comic/other/3
The problem is that brand of atheism was deeply liberal and reactionary, focusing way too hard on "factually incorrect thing is bad and dumb, stop being silly and weird by believing factually incorrect thing!" arguments and hinging too much on "religion say I can't have my treats, how dare you tell me no for such a stupid reason!" motivations. Like it was more "theocrats are cringey because they believe silly wrong things, ew!" and "they're telling me no, how fucking dare they!?!" than "theocrats are deranged monsters who hurt people, and that's bad."
The only thing that stops me from saying it was a psyop was because those same reactionary tendencies have always been a problem with American counter-culture and the broader left, where there's all these chauvinist libertines who are full of themselves and want their treats and end up arrayed against the American mainstream because it's a different brand of chauvinist and doesn't approve of all their treats, but they're still reactionary and just as aggressively oppose the left when that threatens or is perceived as threatening their status or treats in some way. I do think the pro-religious anti-atheist backlash against it was astroturfed, though, even as the neoreactionary movement sucked up a bunch of the chauvinist libertine atheists and turned them into nazi weebs who cosplay as tradcaths while wallowing in hentai.
I remember when :reddit-logo: New Atheism had a brief but fierce civil war when "Atheism+" tried to become a thing. This happened around the time "ElevatorGate" and "Dear Muslima" became a thing, too.
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I'm afraid that something like this is the only way to get anyone to question nazism. I fear most people are only in it to hurt people.
I will literally commit mass crimes if vocal atheism comes back, I can not handle it again. I am not even religious.
I'm not religious either and :reddit-logo: New Atheists weren't just insufferable but a lot of them found religion over time, either through techbro culty grifts, :up-yours-woke-moralists: grifters guiding them into "cultural Christianity," or sometimes full blown "TradCaths" that want to LARP Warhammer 40k. :scared-fash:
well a lot of them were atheists because they hated Muslims mainly, so they realized they could still follow their passion, especially so in a church
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I'm the opposite. American conservatism looooves to be the martyr. If you meet them with atheism, they'll calcify in their beliefs because you're proving their world view correct.
In my opinion, the only way to counter American religious conservatism is to explain to them how far divorcd their beliefs are from the actual words of Christ. There is plenty of revalutionary text in there, you just have to know where to look and how to frame it. I quote Acts to these heathens every single opportunity I get. I attribute quotes from Marx to Jesus, and I explain communism through the lens of Christ vison of his church. Just don't say the word communism.
It's frustrating how they treat religion like an alien force that infects peoples' minds and is the source of all evils
Nothing bad was ever done for secular reasons! :capitalist-laugh:
Another thing is reducing complex geopolitical situations to just religion. Why are there conflicts in the Middle East? Is it mostly due to conflicting material interests? Nope, just because there's different religious groups that can't get along.
I've heard both of the following arguments offline, only a few weeks apart, both from strangers:
"Did you know that if everyone was Christian, there would be no more war?"
"Did you know that if everyone was atheist, there would be no more war?"
:michael-laugh: Christians, famous for never fighting wars against other Christians
My best guess is that he was one of those "my sect of a sect of a sect of a breakaway sect of protestantism is the real Christians" types.
This might provoke some people, but I feel like if you cannot understand people of faith or whatever you want to call it you have a deficit of empathy of some kind. Like, people must place their faith in something and I think it's a very damaging consequence of this to cauterize so many impressionable people to the idea of believing in something. You also see this with like South Park Nihilism and (dare I say it) the lack of sincerity in general in media. Not to get all DFW on a website that budded off a fan subreddit of an irony-poisoned podcast.
Also; not to offend atheists in general or whatever, I mean people who are malicious to religious people/people of faith. I feel like I was clear but you never know.
I understood this for the first time only when I was an adult and my grandfather died and we had to do a bunch of ceremonies at the cremation. It make people feel better. And having something to do made me feel better ( I had a specific role and had to start the fire for example). Earlier in my life I just didn't get it.
like if there are so many religions why am I supposed to be a Hindu specifically
I can not respect an ideology that says I deserve infinite torture. I can sympathize with those who are brainwashed or just there for community and tradition, same way I can sympathize with people who fall for neo Nazi propaganda. But no respect
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Dallas Fort Worth?
No, David Foster Wallace
I spent some time hanging around Christianity trauma groups, and they had a strong non-ideological contingent :zizek-fuck:
It's a real problem, and I'm saying that as someone opposed to Christianity. Sure, let the Reddit Atheists and the Evangelicals fight, but we shouldn't forget they'd both have voted to put Muslims in England and the US into concentration camps
It's still kind of around. Entire brands are rooted in that mentality. :expert-shapiro:
Yes but it’s not entirely centered around having your hand on your cock and envisioning yourself as a supreme logical being for not believing in god and hating Muslims. Sure it’s has been distilled into other areas, but it is nowhere near as concentrated as it ever was in the early days of Reddit
In those moments, :reddit-logo: was euphoric, enlightened by its own intelligence.
I still see residue of that euphoria today, even on Hexbear, especially when someone plays the "logic" card on their opinion and calls someone they disagree with "emotional."
At this point, please bring them back.
The gammon hivemind is constantly told how perfect they are, and we need any insults we can get to instill humility in these fascists.