• CoolerOpposide [none/use name]
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    1 year ago

    Fireball whiskey has anti-freeze in it and is consumed by a significant portion of the American population before their prefrontal cortex is fully formed.

    On a slightly more serious note, some time in the future psychologists and anthropologists will study the history of the American populace and almost certainly find out that the inability of life expectancy to keep up with comparable countries is due to the fact that an appallingly large percentage Americans can’t afford to do anything or go anywhere for leisure.

    Americans are going to eventually end up like those completely healthy lab rats whose life expectancy is like 50% that of the control group simply because the American rats have no enrichment in their enclosures.

      • CoolerOpposide [none/use name]
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        1 year ago

        Technically yes; it’s propylene glycol. It’s more heavily regulated in Europe than it is in America (of course, hence my making it a point in this thread) and it is supposedly safe to consume in limited amounts. The problem remains though, is it safe to consume Fireball whiskey AND propylene glycol simultaneously in limited amounts? Personally, I’m not going to push my luck.

        Here’s an article covering when it began to be removed from European shelves back in 2014.

        • SpanishSpaceAgency [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          The FDA allows about 50 grams per kilogram of propylene glycol in foods.

          That's a lot... I'm in constant awe about the lax regulations in the US

          Thanks for the link!

          • CoolerOpposide [none/use name]
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            1 year ago

            Well, I hope it’s reassuring to you that the current legislation in the US regulating Propylene Glycol in food and beverage was written in 1982.

            (d) The ingredient is used in foods at levels not to exceed current good manufacturing practice in accordance with § 184.1(b)(1). Current good manufacturing practice results in maximum levels, as served, of 5 percent for alcoholic beverages, as defined in § 170.3(n)(2) of this chapter; 24 percent for confections and frostings as defined in § 170.3(n)(9) of this chapter; 2.5 percent for frozen dairy products as defined in § 170.3(n)(20) of this chapter; 97 percent for seasonings and flavorings as defined in § 170.3(n)(26) of this chapter; 5 percent for nuts and nut products as defined in § 170.3(n)(32) of this chapter; and 2.0 percent for all other food categories.

            [47 FR 27812, June 25, 1982]

            Here’s a link to all official regulation regarding propylene glycol, careful though, it’s pretty thorough. It’s an entire one half of one page.

            • SpanishSpaceAgency [he/him]
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              1 year ago

              At least it seems somewhat safe to consume based on what I read so far?

              It's interesting that it's not used in Europe so, seemingly only in cosmetics and vapes/regular cigarettes

        • immuredanchorite [he/him, any]
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          1 year ago

          Anti-freeze is typically ethylene glycol, vs propylene glycol that is considered less or non-toxic… interestingly an antidote to ethylene glycol poisoning is ethanol… although my understanding is that it often isn’t enough to save a persom from some of the worst effects of antifreeze poisoning… often times drunken suicide attempts with antifreeze end up not working because the antidote has been delivered already, but it often prolongs some of the agonizing pain and still endangers their lives… without gastric levage and hemodialysis they can end up dying long agonizing deaths