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Technically yes; it’s propylene glycol. It’s more heavily regulated in Europe than it is in America (of course, hence my making it a point in this thread) and it is supposedly safe to consume in limited amounts. The problem remains though, is it safe to consume Fireball whiskey AND propylene glycol simultaneously in limited amounts? Personally, I’m not going to push my luck.
Well, I hope it’s reassuring to you that the current legislation in the US regulating Propylene Glycol in food and beverage was written in 1982.
(d) The ingredient is used in foods at levels not to exceed current good manufacturing practice in accordance with § 184.1(b)(1). Current good manufacturing practice results in maximum levels, as served, of 5 percent for alcoholic beverages, as defined in § 170.3(n)(2) of this chapter; 24 percent for confections and frostings as defined in § 170.3(n)(9) of this chapter; 2.5 percent for frozen dairy products as defined in § 170.3(n)(20) of this chapter; 97 percent for seasonings and flavorings as defined in § 170.3(n)(26) of this chapter; 5 percent for nuts and nut products as defined in § 170.3(n)(32) of this chapter; and 2.0 percent for all other food categories.
Anti-freeze is typically ethylene glycol, vs propylene glycol that is considered less or non-toxic… interestingly an antidote to ethylene glycol poisoning is ethanol… although my understanding is that it often isn’t enough to save a persom from some of the worst effects of antifreeze poisoning… often times drunken suicide attempts with antifreeze end up not working because the antidote has been delivered already, but it often prolongs some of the agonizing pain and still endangers their lives… without gastric levage and hemodialysis they can end up dying long agonizing deaths
Wait what?
Technically yes; it’s propylene glycol. It’s more heavily regulated in Europe than it is in America (of course, hence my making it a point in this thread) and it is supposedly safe to consume in limited amounts. The problem remains though, is it safe to consume Fireball whiskey AND propylene glycol simultaneously in limited amounts? Personally, I’m not going to push my luck.
Here’s an article covering when it began to be removed from European shelves back in 2014.
That's a lot... I'm in constant awe about the lax regulations in the US
Thanks for the link!
Well, I hope it’s reassuring to you that the current legislation in the US regulating Propylene Glycol in food and beverage was written in 1982.
Here’s a link to all official regulation regarding propylene glycol, careful though, it’s pretty thorough. It’s an entire one half of one page.
At least it seems somewhat safe to consume based on what I read so far?
It's interesting that it's not used in Europe so, seemingly only in cosmetics and vapes/regular cigarettes
Anti-freeze is typically ethylene glycol, vs propylene glycol that is considered less or non-toxic… interestingly an antidote to ethylene glycol poisoning is ethanol… although my understanding is that it often isn’t enough to save a persom from some of the worst effects of antifreeze poisoning… often times drunken suicide attempts with antifreeze end up not working because the antidote has been delivered already, but it often prolongs some of the agonizing pain and still endangers their lives… without gastric levage and hemodialysis they can end up dying long agonizing deaths