i can't believe this exists

  • CriticalOtaku [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Why are the goblins in Goblin Slayer fantasy monsters, but not the ones in Harry Potter? After all, aren't they both goblins?

    • GorbinOutOverHere [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      Perhaps because they are fantasy monster and in the case of goblin slayer not meant to be a racial stand in for a real life minority but instead are, you know, a fantasy monster

      You can point to harry Potter goblins and say that they are clearly an anti semitic caricature

      What are goblin slayer goblins meant to represent? Is there some specific ethnicity there? Ah, curious.

      "They're an Other!" okay so basically you don't want any humanoid monsters involved because any Other is automatically some sanction of real world racism

      Zzzzzzzzzzzz

      This is a waste of both our time

      • CriticalOtaku [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        What I'm asking is why are you so sure that the goblins in goblin slayer aren't meant to be a stand in for a real life minority? Why do you identify the ones in Harry Potter immediately as an anti-semitic caricature? What is the difference?

        I don't feel like I'm wasting my time.

        • GorbinOutOverHere [comrade/them]
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          2 years ago

          Why do you identify the ones in Harry Potter immediately as an anti-semitic caricature?

          Because being hooked nosed gold loving bankers who are literally designed to look like that hand wringing merchant guy that gets play on 4chan is like, The Anti Semitic Trope? What are "green little rapists who live in caves" supposed to be? Like what the fuck lol. Vague shit about green skinned primitives is not on the same level as what Harry Potter did, it's wild to even think a person exists that would think so

          • CriticalOtaku [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            it’s wild to even think a person exists that would think so

            And if I told you that there are people who think like that, and those people are white supremacists?

            "For years, Tolkien scholars have waged a fight on two fronts: against an academic establishment that for the most part refused to take the author's work seriously, and against white supremacists who have tried to claim the professor as one of their own."
            ― David Ibata, Chicago Tribune
            
            • GorbinOutOverHere [comrade/them]
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              2 years ago

              Are you calling yourself a white supremacist tho because you're a person who thinks "vague shit about green skinned primitives is on the level with what harry Potter did" as well

              • CriticalOtaku [he/him]
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                2 years ago

                "No U" is some weak ass shit. Get the fuck outta here with that, right wingers pull that shit all the time to dismiss legitimate criticism, especially of race. You gonna tell me BLM are the real racists next?

                I'm not calling the show racist, I'm simply saying the racists believe it is racist.

                • GorbinOutOverHere [comrade/them]
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                  2 years ago

                  no like literally with how that was framed and by that logic you would be including yourself up in there. I said it is wild to think that such a person exists, you said they do, they're white supremacists. You are the one existing in part of a venn diagram whose beliefs overlap with theirs, by that set of statements. That's not "no you," dawg.

                  You gonna tell me BLM are the real racists next?

                  🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄 yes sweaty and antifa are the real fascists 🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄

                  I’m not calling the show racist, I’m simply saying the racists believe it is racist.

                  so fucking confusing after this long ass argument about the inherent racism of the show, a thing which you believe, but maybe I got you confused for the other guy

                  • CriticalOtaku [he/him]
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                    2 years ago

                    I'm telling you that real life crackers post memes about Goblin Slayer because the racialized Other in the show is just vague enough that people like you won't see the dog whistles while they go on about how goblins are responsible for 60% of the crime while being only 14% of the population, and should be genocided JUST like in the show.

                    What you're doing now is saying that Antifa are the real Nazis for pointing out what dogwhistles the Nazi's use. Just because you didn't know about them doesn't mean they don't exist, and when other leftists tell you they do you're putting your hands in your ears and screaming "LAHLAHLAH" like a fucking child just because you don't want to fucking think about what you're watching.

                    If you actually think I'm jumping at shadows, engage with my fucking arguments and tell me how they're not far-right dogwhistles rather than pull "Oh you the real racist for pointing out racism" bullshit.

                    • GorbinOutOverHere [comrade/them]
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                      2 years ago

                      I’m telling you that real life crackers post memes about Goblin Slayer because the racialized Other in the show is just vague enough that people like you won’t see the dog whistles while they go on about how goblins are responsible for 60% of the crime while being only 14% of the population, and should be genocided JUST like in the show.

                      i'm confused they show trolls depicted as "feminists" does that mean trolls are inherently racist or inherently misogynistic? I just want to get things straight while we're letting fascists dictate terms of language, which is a good thing to do

                      If you actually think I’m jumping at shadows, engage with my fucking arguments and tell me how they’re not far-right dogwhistles rather than pull “Oh you the real racist for pointing out racism” bullshit.

                      i did this when I called you and the other guy nerds who over think shit and told you that arguing with me would be wasting your time

                      is saying that Antifa are the real Nazi

                      when I said that it was what is called a Joke I thought calling you sweaty would make that clear

                      • CriticalOtaku [he/him]
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                        2 years ago

                        I just want to get things straight while we’re letting fascists dictate terms of language, which is a good thing to do

                        You want to "reclaim" the rape and genocide Other show? Go right the fuck ahead. Why though?

                        i did this when I called you and the other guy nerds who over think shit and told you that arguing with me would be wasting your time

                        You didn't do shit. You just don't want to entertain the possibility that you're in the wrong because it'll hurt your precious self-image as a leftist, so you're dismissing all criticism as "overthinking" so that you don't have to put in any effort into defending your position, and you're hiding behind "it's a waste of time" in the hope I back off, rather than do the slightest bit of self-reflection and asking yourself if maybe you might have missed some things because you're only human.

                        • GorbinOutOverHere [comrade/them]
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                          2 years ago

                          You want to “reclaim” the rape and genocide Other show? Go right the fuck ahead. Why though?

                          I want to not base my thoughts and opinions on "what the fascists like" unlike you, thanks

                          You didn’t do shit. You just don’t want to entertain the possibility that you’re in the wrong because it’ll hurt your precious self-image as a leftist, so you’re dismissing all criticism as “overthinking” so that you don’t have to put in any effort into defending your position, and you’re hiding behind “it’s a waste of time” in the hope I back off, rather than do the slightest bit of self-reflection and asking yourself if maybe you might have missed some things because you’re only human.

                          i think you're jumping at nazi shadows and wasting your time and mine, thanks