The constant harassment and abuse from speciesist reactionaries is what drove us off. But mentioning that part would ruin the narrative that vegans are the bad guys
Reminder: https://archive.ph/Xl1Kd
The constant harassment and abuse from speciesist reactionaries is what drove us off. But mentioning that part would ruin the narrative that vegans are the bad guys
Reminder: https://archive.ph/Xl1Kd
Firstly:
Thank you for with no knowledge of who I am, instantly assuming my stance on animal liberation so you can paint the least charitable view of me possible, really appreciate it.
You capped your little screed off a accusing me of being a bigot and unaware of stats, 172 vegans were the victims of hatecrimes in the UK between 2015 and 2020 in one year of that timeframe ~14500 queerphobic hate crimes were recorded. In that same time frame, multiple attempts were made to undo the gender recognition act, back benchers of the UK's leading party called for a return of section 28, all forms of the pride flag were added to the prevent scheme's list of "extremist symbols", and gender services in England and Scotland canceled gender affirming care to transmascs in their care without notifying them. In that same timeframe, some vegan groups were added to prevents watchlist.
Queer people are under siege by the hegemony and it's only getting worse but don't you dare ever say that we're having a worse time than your average vegan. No, because then you're a bigot.
I've lost friends, seen cops cheer on as fascists assault my comrades, I can't just go about my life without near daily harassment from shit heads and I live in a part of the UK that's relatively queer friendly. But what do I know about oppression some stranger on the internet has decided I'm a carnist?
Stop abusing animals
Well, considering you came to my post with the sole mission of telling me to sit down and shut up bc the way vegans are marginalized is not exactly to the same degree and expression as queer marginalization, yeah, I think you fucking don't give a shit about animals or vegans.
I highly fucking doubt you read any of the articles or listened to any of the pods I linked given how quick you were to respond. You looked at one study, misinterpreted it, and ignored everything else bc you very fucking obviously don't care what I'm saying or what I'm actually arguing. You've decided in your head that what I'm actually saying is "vegans have it worse than queer ppl" and that's a very easy strawman to get mad at. I would get mad at that too if I heard someone say it. So it's a good thing no one here is arguing it.
Anyway, disengage. You're obviously not engaging with me in good faith, so I refuse to continue with you.
"You didn't listen to literally everything I demanded you to! Muh bad faith."
Yeah, I agree it's probably best to disengage.
Didn't engage with the substance of my argument at all. This bullshit is bad faith too.