Ukranian forces could have pulled an Iraqi army / insrugency move and just melted into the general populace and IED'd the fuck out of Russian forces on a weekly basis for the next 20 years. Making Putin and anyone after him just bloodlet the russian forces. It is so fucking funny that they think a Hot War is, in this day and age, a better option than an insurgency.
I wonder how that would have played out. The Russians still have Soviet-era records of military installations, so big hidden caches of weapons like in Iraq are out. Western support could probably still come through but probably only a matter of time before the Ukrop resistance blows up a school bus by accident and the West gets squeamish.
Unlike in Iraq where there's radical differences in culture, language, and history, how long before the average Ukrainian gets sick of living in European Falluja and starts snitching on the people blowing shit up?
If the insurgency can't get up to much more than random stochastic terrorism, that's probably not going to get them independence. The Chechans got up for far more and the Russians didn't cave then.
I'm not sure that'd work. If they let Russia have total victory, Russia would dismantle their military, possibly change the governmental structure, enforce some peace demands about NATO, maybe reparations etc, and then pretty much leave them to it. I highly doubt Russia would annex more than Donetsk/Luhansk/nearby areas, who are all even more staunchly anti-Ukrainian after a decade of being shelled.
Ukranian forces could have pulled an Iraqi army / insrugency move and just melted into the general populace and IED'd the fuck out of Russian forces on a weekly basis for the next 20 years. Making Putin and anyone after him just bloodlet the russian forces. It is so fucking funny that they think a Hot War is, in this day and age, a better option than an insurgency.
I wonder how that would have played out. The Russians still have Soviet-era records of military installations, so big hidden caches of weapons like in Iraq are out. Western support could probably still come through but probably only a matter of time before the Ukrop resistance blows up a school bus by accident and the West gets squeamish.
Unlike in Iraq where there's radical differences in culture, language, and history, how long before the average Ukrainian gets sick of living in European Falluja and starts snitching on the people blowing shit up?
If the insurgency can't get up to much more than random stochastic terrorism, that's probably not going to get them independence. The Chechans got up for far more and the Russians didn't cave then.
Lol, the West actively supports death squads in central and south america with nary a fucking care.
The school bus was carrying Western school children on their mandatory annual "Learn from Father Bandera" trip.
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I'm not sure that'd work. If they let Russia have total victory, Russia would dismantle their military, possibly change the governmental structure, enforce some peace demands about NATO, maybe reparations etc, and then pretty much leave them to it. I highly doubt Russia would annex more than Donetsk/Luhansk/nearby areas, who are all even more staunchly anti-Ukrainian after a decade of being shelled.