Lol its actually the opposite too, american soldiers wear too much gear, carry too much and have too much funds, meanwhile french soldiers are all true athletes. You get dropped hundreds of kms away from your target and you better walk fast to get there. Last year i was drinking with a dude who used to be in the army and who got the boot for punching an officer in the face (lmao) and he told me that marines came to his base to train. The US marines got up at 6 for some routine country marching with all their gear on (which is something like 40kg+). An older dude grabs him by the shirt and tells him to roll a truck out which confuses the fuck out of the guy. Eventually he realises they're following the marines on their walk, and on the side of the road, hundreds of discarded items. Basically the US marines were just throwing their gear away, one item at a time. So the two guys get off the truck and slowly start chucking random shit in for hours and then haul the literal tons of gear back to base.
The old guy then tells him that this happens every time US soldiers come here and that theyre the laziest forces he's ever seen, that theyre used to getting to places in jeeps, trucks, hummers etc and forgot how to walk, that theyre all addicted to steroids and have too many muscles, useless to have when in a real war you often trekk 30+ km a day. In the french army you get deployed 100+ kms away from your objective and you haul all your shit over the terrain, and youre expected to do this in a day.
i wont go over the rest, the fact that france basically made a better F35 and abrams for like 10% of the cost, and that the supposedly best the US army has to offer refuses to even try the training courses elite french forces routinely go through in Guyane (horrible fucked up jungle trail thing).
But both armies fucking suck and serve shitty goals so who fucking cares tbh
TLDR: US soldiers are lazy roided out meatheads who cant jog 10 miles, and id love to have whatever the dude OP posted was smoking when he typed this shit
is it too cliche to see this as a microcosm of France and the United States overall?
France expects to hold on to their colonial projects, so their institutions reflect that and produce soldiers actually capable of carrying out the orders of empire.
The United States is only in a region either until local resistance pushes them out or capital has finished hollowing out any remaining infrastructure, so their soldiers really only have to terrorize the locals until the Chinooks arrive to airlift them out at the last possible moment.
I was gonna say that the only believable part of the Quota story is being stronger since Americans definitely have a stronger culture of steroids/other gear, strength training, and stimulants
yeah, it also beat the F22 in a dogfight, the US air force lied and refused to admit their precious wunderwaffe lost and then the french air force uploaded the damn gun cam footage showing the f22 getting blasted up close. Embarassing.
As for the leclerc is lighter, less complicated and much, much faster
divulgâche
also as a little bonus and game trivia, its the single most successful top tier vehicle in War Thunder with a kill ratio of almost 2 in realistic and a ridiculous 81% win ration in Arcade https://thunderskill.com/en/vehicle/fr_leclerc_s1. The french tree in general has insane statistics, with very high kill and win ratios, some of the best War thunder players main french vehicles too lol
All I've personally seen of the US military is sometimes you get some of them training with the SAS in Bannau Brycheiniog.
Every so often you'd hear of one dying out in yr Bannau because they didn't pack enough water or some shit, although it's hard to take the piss out of them for that cos it happens just as often to the SAS lot.
Lol its actually the opposite too, american soldiers wear too much gear, carry too much and have too much funds, meanwhile french soldiers are all true athletes. You get dropped hundreds of kms away from your target and you better walk fast to get there. Last year i was drinking with a dude who used to be in the army and who got the boot for punching an officer in the face (lmao) and he told me that marines came to his base to train. The US marines got up at 6 for some routine country marching with all their gear on (which is something like 40kg+). An older dude grabs him by the shirt and tells him to roll a truck out which confuses the fuck out of the guy. Eventually he realises they're following the marines on their walk, and on the side of the road, hundreds of discarded items. Basically the US marines were just throwing their gear away, one item at a time. So the two guys get off the truck and slowly start chucking random shit in for hours and then haul the literal tons of gear back to base.
The old guy then tells him that this happens every time US soldiers come here and that theyre the laziest forces he's ever seen, that theyre used to getting to places in jeeps, trucks, hummers etc and forgot how to walk, that theyre all addicted to steroids and have too many muscles, useless to have when in a real war you often trekk 30+ km a day. In the french army you get deployed 100+ kms away from your objective and you haul all your shit over the terrain, and youre expected to do this in a day.
i wont go over the rest, the fact that france basically made a better F35 and abrams for like 10% of the cost, and that the supposedly best the US army has to offer refuses to even try the training courses elite french forces routinely go through in Guyane (horrible fucked up jungle trail thing).
But both armies fucking suck and serve shitty goals so who fucking cares tbh
TLDR: US soldiers are lazy roided out meatheads who cant jog 10 miles, and id love to have whatever the dude OP posted was smoking when he typed this shit
is it too cliche to see this as a microcosm of France and the United States overall?
France expects to hold on to their colonial projects, so their institutions reflect that and produce soldiers actually capable of carrying out the orders of empire.
The United States is only in a region either until local resistance pushes them out or capital has finished hollowing out any remaining infrastructure, so their soldiers really only have to terrorize the locals until the Chinooks arrive to airlift them out at the last possible moment.
Don't forget the French running after the yanks like good little doggies to clean up
I was gonna say that the only believable part of the Quota story is being stronger since Americans definitely have a stronger culture of steroids/other gear, strength training, and stimulants
What are those?
Idk about the F-35 but the Leclerc has supposedly fared pretty well in service with the UAE.
Rafale?
yeah, it also beat the F22 in a dogfight, the US air force lied and refused to admit their precious wunderwaffe lost and then the french air force uploaded the damn gun cam footage showing the f22 getting blasted up close. Embarassing.
As for the leclerc is lighter, less complicated and much, much faster
divulgâche
also as a little bonus and game trivia, its the single most successful top tier vehicle in War Thunder with a kill ratio of almost 2 in realistic and a ridiculous 81% win ration in Arcade https://thunderskill.com/en/vehicle/fr_leclerc_s1. The french tree in general has insane statistics, with very high kill and win ratios, some of the best War thunder players main french vehicles too lol
Rafale lacks the stealth capabilities of F-35, which, to be fair, are far more useful against an inferior force than a peer force.
Thanks!
All I've personally seen of the US military is sometimes you get some of them training with the SAS in Bannau Brycheiniog.
Every so often you'd hear of one dying out in yr Bannau because they didn't pack enough water or some shit, although it's hard to take the piss out of them for that cos it happens just as often to the SAS lot.