Excited to find the western chauvinists in this community.
Edit: Wow apparently the only people on chapo dot chat are whitees unaffected by and benefiting from their imperialism confidently declaring how the perpetrators are to be treated.
Y'all have some nerve
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ITT If you shoot a black kid in the back in downtown Baltimore I want nothing to do with you. If you perfarate an entire back family in Mogadischu or Baghdad that's ok, you did growth and spaces.
This video. That's the post
People forget that one of original lines of the Internationale were "Our bullets are for our own generals"
EDIT: You know what, no, that's not the post. Does anyone remember who the most effective activists against the Vietnam War. The Vietnam Veterans Against War. The conservatives literally had to concoct a mythology that anti-war activists fucking hated the troops to the point that they spit on returning veterans.
Bourgeois professional militaries literally have their own inherent class divide in officers vs enlisted.
The entire reason historical wars became so unpopular was because of drafts and conscription, which is inherently polarizing due to affecting different segments of society unequally based on class. Conscripted armies are literally a means of socialization and consciousness-forming for the working class in the exact same way concentrated industrial enterprises are. Conscript armies become pressure cookers for class-based social unrest and dissent. This is precisely the reason they abolished the draft after Vietnam and will never actually reinstitute it. Just like police, professional volunteer-only militaries inevitably become hotbeds of reaction and hubs for reactionary indoctrination, pitting the professional soldiers and professional cops against cowardly, soft "civilians".
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Against the invasion. They were all for fighting the war.
Definitely, but internal contradictions in the US, harnessed by the American anti-war movement, made the Viet Cong's attritional warfare tactics actually effective. The whole point wasn't to beat the US army in open combat, we saw the Tet offensive, that was a tactical defeat for the NVA but it was a strategic victory because it drastically lowered morale and empowered the anti-war movement at home. But for that strategy to work that anti-war movement had to exist and the contradictions of an overconfident and overextended US empire had to exist as well.
In some ways it’s different under a “volunteer army,” i.e. one populated by the domestically immiserated, looking for and wooed by the benefits of service.
I’m open for this discussion, but I find it unwise and unexamined to either fully absolve or cancel poor imperial core kids largely raised to be ignorant of their country’s atrocities.
Something of a thesis I've been working on in my head lately is that the United States has replaced a traditional welfare state with its imperial military Keynesianism and the military-industrial complex.
This is amazing, thank you for writing that. The military industrial complex is a distillation of the domestic working capitalistic exploitation and imperalism's global south resource plunder. Add on top of that the neoliberal/globalist manufacturing and finance systems ensuring the class divide and restricting mobility except for the one channel that is the military.
Greenwashing and pinkwashing the military will complete the merge between neoliberal systems and the military industrial thesis you wrote.
Thanks again
If you haven’t, you should read American theocracy, which complements this. It’s an interesting read because a) it predicted the 2008 market crash and b) it was written by Nixon’s architect of the southern strategy.