That is an absolutely hilarious political move in this situation. It fucks things right up.
Think of the calculus here. You applauded this nazi but you're pretending now that your applause was accidental. What do you do? Refuse to extradite the nazi? That's gonna make it look like you're full of shit about your applauding being a mistake.
Either they agree to the extradition to cover their asses or they look like nazis. Either way this story stays news relevant for a good while now and they were hoping it would die down quickly.
Because Canada fucking loves Nazis. Same reasons they let tens of thousands in after WW2, same reason their deputy PM is the unapologetic child of a Ukrainian Nazi, same reason they are part of the NATO Nazi alliance, same reason they clapped for a nazi in their parliament and thanked him for his service. THEY ARE NAZIS.
And if they do extradite him, does that mean they secretly like Nazis, or how does this work in your view
It's not a secret, Canada loves their Ukrainian Nazis. Extraditing a single Nazi would just be them caving to political and media pressure. For me to believe that Canada no longer loves Nazis they would have to put all the remaining Nazis on trial and demolish all their Nazi monuments. They would probably also have to reverse the Canadian law rejecting the Nuremberg trials and declare the Waffen-SS a criminal organization.
Look up who Chrystia Freeland's grandfather was for more interesting facts about Canada and Nazis.
They're not going to. If by some fluke they do, it means the Polish lobby in Canada is more powerful than I realized and more powerful than the Ukrainian lobby. If the Jewish lobby gets involved, then maybe. Seems like it's not going to have much to do with how Nazi Canada is or isn't, and more to do with the competition between various special interest groups and who happens to have more leverage at the moment.
Canada seems to be full of Ukrainian Nazis, their defense minister Chrystia Freeland's grand father was the chief ediotor of a Ukrainian newspaper for the Nazis. There might be political support for the Nazi against extradition.
Foreign Affairs Minister Chrystia Freeland, who is being targeted by allegations in pro-Moscow websites that her maternal Ukrainian grandfather was a Nazi collaborator, warned Monday that Canada should expect to be the focus of Russian disinformation campaigns similar to what is happening in Europe and the United States.
First is guilt for putting him in this position. Second is the fact they don't really think these crimes matter anymore, they really think it's all over and that we've moved on from them.
Am I wrong for thinking it's an easy move on the part of Trudeau? He proves that it was an accident and they don't support Nazis, and there won't be any political push back either because nobody wants to look like they support Nazis.
the liberals would feel guilty for convincing this guy to show his face and then getting him in trouble. they don't really feel like he should be punished.
That is an absolutely hilarious political move in this situation. It fucks things right up.
Think of the calculus here. You applauded this nazi but you're pretending now that your applause was accidental. What do you do? Refuse to extradite the nazi? That's gonna make it look like you're full of shit about your applauding being a mistake.
Either they agree to the extradition to cover their asses or they look like nazis. Either way this story stays news relevant for a good while now and they were hoping it would die down quickly.
Fuck yeah Poland , let the smug proud fuck stand trial for things that do not lawfully nor morally expire!
Why would they refuse to extradite?
Because Canada fucking loves Nazis. Same reasons they let tens of thousands in after WW2, same reason their deputy PM is the unapologetic child of a Ukrainian Nazi, same reason they are part of the NATO Nazi alliance, same reason they clapped for a nazi in their parliament and thanked him for his service. THEY ARE NAZIS.
And if they do extradite him, does that mean they secretly like Nazis, or how does this work in your view
That would just make them embarrassed Nazis, embarrassed since they've been called out.
No one's claimed they are out and proud nazis
It's not a secret, Canada loves their Ukrainian Nazis. Extraditing a single Nazi would just be them caving to political and media pressure. For me to believe that Canada no longer loves Nazis they would have to put all the remaining Nazis on trial and demolish all their Nazi monuments. They would probably also have to reverse the Canadian law rejecting the Nuremberg trials and declare the Waffen-SS a criminal organization.
Look up who Chrystia Freeland's grandfather was for more interesting facts about Canada and Nazis.
They're not going to. If by some fluke they do, it means the Polish lobby in Canada is more powerful than I realized and more powerful than the Ukrainian lobby. If the Jewish lobby gets involved, then maybe. Seems like it's not going to have much to do with how Nazi Canada is or isn't, and more to do with the competition between various special interest groups and who happens to have more leverage at the moment.
At the very least it's given thedunktank a lot more posting material
it would mean they capitulated to pressure
Canada seems to be full of Ukrainian Nazis, their defense minister Chrystia Freeland's grand father was the chief ediotor of a Ukrainian newspaper for the Nazis. There might be political support for the Nazi against extradition.
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/freeland-warns-canadians-to-beware-of-russian-disinformation/article34227707/
Foreign Affairs Minister Chrystia Freeland, who is being targeted by allegations in pro-Moscow websites that her maternal Ukrainian grandfather was a Nazi collaborator, warned Monday that Canada should expect to be the focus of Russian disinformation campaigns similar to what is happening in Europe and the United States.
TIL reality is putinist propaganda
First is guilt for putting him in this position. Second is the fact they don't really think these crimes matter anymore, they really think it's all over and that we've moved on from them.
Am I wrong for thinking it's an easy move on the part of Trudeau? He proves that it was an accident and they don't support Nazis, and there won't be any political push back either because nobody wants to look like they support Nazis.
Got bad news for you. The Libs are all apologists for Nazis now over this incident. They are beginning their transformation
Libs have been supporting nazis for literally like a year now
the liberals would feel guilty for convincing this guy to show his face and then getting him in trouble. they don't really feel like he should be punished.
Capitulating to a foreign power’s demands during a time where they already look weak due to the India thing.
I'm guessing they use the "old and in poor health" excuse
Trudeau implied that this was the work of russian propaganda 😂 these guys are comically incompetent.