God help them. The slaughter to come is probably beyond our imagining

    • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Uhhh I think Native Americans would have something to say about Europeans settling in Utah not being colonialism...

      • D3FNC [any]
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        1 year ago

        Joseph Smith: that's weird... I don't hear anything at all

        wipes blood onto his jeans

      • TheDialectic [none/use name]
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        1 year ago

        Maybe I am an optimist but I feel like they might find kinship in a people who suffered a genocide at the hands of European powers

        • mkultrawide [any]
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          1 year ago

          There would be peace in Palestine if that was the case.

          • D3FNC [any]
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            1 year ago

            Israel can have Palestine, TX , as a treat

            Final offer

            • mkultrawide [any]
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              1 year ago

              I've said before that we should give them Eastern Florida from Ft. Lauderdale to St. Augustine since it's basically West Israel anyways.

        • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          Many of the first American colonists were escaping persecution in Europe weren't they?

          • CommunistCuddlefish [she/her]
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            1 year ago

            Not really, they just like to play the victim card.

            The Puritan settlers from England weren't some persecuted minority -- they had been part of the ruling class that turned England into a theocracy for a couple generations. They eventually got overthrown because they were shit rulers with no popular support. I'm fuzzy on the historical details of whether they were expelled or just decided to go somewhere else but either way, the "freedom to practice our religion" they wanted was really the freedom to oppress others, and the legacy of that DARVO-filled spin on "religious freedom" is still abundantly present in the theocratic fascist Evangelical Christians who plague America to this day.