God help them. The slaughter to come is probably beyond our imagining
Please continue the discussion in the news megathread: https://hexbear.net/post/799045
The Israelis have the power to end the political and economic conditions (which they created and maintain) which lead to violence
The Palestinians do not
If you're saddened or angered by the deaths of Israeli civilians, you can take those complaints straight to the Israeli government. Any handwringing about violence committed by the Palestinians is de facto support for the illegal occupation of Palestinian land and the apartheid state of Israel.
This is one of their EZ mode lies where you can safely just mentally replace any utterance of 'unprovoked' by US officials with 'influenced by decades of unrelenting provocation that we have been committedlty supportive of, if not the principle actors behind'
I wonder just how much more provocation is necessary for libs to accept that violent retaliation is justified.
They'll just keep insisting that Palestinians only use non-violence, refuse to look at what happens when they do, and then go right back to chanting Slava Ukraini
To be fair to Biden, he might be having an episode and confused Ukraine and Palestine.
This thread is an embarrassment, I can't believe there are people on Hexbear handwringing about violence against settler civilians. Did Native Americans never kill colonizer civilians? Are we going to start condemning the Haitian revolutionaries?
Israelis are constantly pretending they live in fear of being killed by Palestinian "terrorists". Have they considered fucking leaving, which is an option the Palestinians don't even have? No Israeli children would be in a position to be killed in the fighting or held hostage if their colonizer parents hadn't put them there. These children are victims, but they're victims of their colonizer parents and colonizer politicians.
You want to talk about children being held hostage to ensure compliance from adults? How many Palestinian children are there in the open air prison of Gaza, where 2/3 of the population are under 25 years old?
I have nothing but unwavering support for the Palestinian people, but watching this is like watching John Brown pick up the sword and march on Harpers Ferry. Nothing but the noblest motive but I can't imagine this ending remotely well. May God be with all Palestinians today, they'll need him
Same, nothing but support for the freedom fighters, but I am sick thinking of the brutal vengeance I know Israel will mete out
Stealing a comment from someone in the news mega
We have entered a week where decades happen
slowly removing my "prolong the ukraine war for 10,000 years" hat and replacing it with a hat that says "i condemn all violence"
Liberals talking about Hamas: They are all Islamic extremists, it doesn't matter how much Palestinians think they need their help.
Liberals talking about Ukrainian nazis: But they're being attacked! They need all the help they can get!
Lot's of "comrades" in here are full of first world brainworms.
Let's pretend that the Vietnam war or Cuba's revolution were happening today. If we follow their arguments, they would totally oppose the expresions of resistance and anticolonialism because "people are going to die, so we just need to stop the use of violence".
Like Mandaela once said: "We know too well that our freedom is incomplete without the freedom of the Palestinians."
So no need to keep the "whataboutism" going. At the end of the day, is just a defense to keep the status quo and, by extension, the Israelí apartheid state...
god i feel sick. 198 palestinians reported dead already, compared to 40 israelis killed in the initial attack. this is only going to get worse, and ghouls on twitter are naturally saying they want to bomb gaza back into the stone age
What's left to bomb? Fucking cretins may still well just take the mask off and say they want Palestinians wiped off the face of the earth.
Oh Zionists for sure. Just disgusting seeing libs and "leftists" say shit like this.
I think Netanyahu has already said they will need to "cleanse" Gaza 😳
I really hope countries like Iran gets involved in helping Palestine more during this
Journalist: M. Ben M'Hidi, don't you think it's a bit cowardly to use women's baskets and handbags to carry explosive devices that kill so many innocent people?
Ben M'Hidi: And doesn't it seem to you even more cowardly to drop napalm bombs on defenseless villages, so that there are a thousand times more innocent victims? Of course, if we had your airplanes it would be a lot easier for us. Give us your bombers, and you can have our baskets.
-The Battle of Algiers
The gaslighting is and will be insane. Americans really think that things like this happen for no reason and that Israel is the innocent victim. Sickening.
I'm very afraid of what comes next for the Palestinian people, but regardless of what happens next, Israel has been dealt a fucking incredible blow to its international reputation. This is a country whose main export is highly sophisticated systems of oppression. If you have a nagging problem with some pesky minority, Israel is your "consultant" of choice.
Now here we are, watching as some of the most violently oppressed, downtrodden people in the entire world do deftly orchestrated commando raids on lawnmower engine powered paragliders, surprising literally the entire world. They have been training to do this under Israel's watch for god knows how long, and the IDF was none the wiser. How did they pull this off?
How can you still claim to develop the most sophisticated surveillance systems and to have the best-trained military in the world, when shit like this happens? How do you even recover from this? This is unprecedented, a paradigm shift, we're watching history in the making here.
Absolutely uncritical support for the heroic Palestinian efforts.
Liberals when Ukraine is flying swastikas: I SLEEP
Liberals when Palestinians have not only a moral but legally justified under international law war to defend themselves and push out colonizers: REAL SHIT ?
