I mean, I consider the killing of the Romanov children to be a tragic necessity at best, And someone recently argued to me that it wasn't even actually necessary. And also while I was searching for that post I was reminded that someone else told me that there was no evidence of an order from the higher ups to kill the kids.
Like, I completely agree that revolutions are messy and that we can't condemn them for excesses and errors, and that the scope of the amount of children killed by the forces they are fighting against are much higher and deserve our tears much more.
But at the end of the day, Alexei was 13, unequivocably a child, and with no administrative power as well. Applying some sort of collective guilt to him for the crimes of his father/dynasty is not materialist. Ideally, if the Civil War situation hadn't forced their hand, he would have been Puyi'd instead.
Like the person you're replying to here is being a concern troll asshole but on a base level I don't think concern for the murder of children is a bad thing. Like I think being able to say "wow, a child died, that sucks" proves that you are still human. I'm not sure I want to fight a revolution on the side of people who don't retain the idea that killing children is something to be avoided as much as possible.
In the case of this conflict, it absolutely needs to be acknowledged that the rage for the death of these children should be set at the feet of the colonizers themselves, not the people resisting them, to be clear. But I can't agree with the implication that I can't be sad at all about kids dying. Kids are my life. I work with them professionally and they are the primary thing I care about in the world. Any child's death is going to get to me on some level. Absolutely I should put their deaths in context and look at the bigger picture, and put the fault for their deaths at the right person. But that doesn't mean the base emotion of "I am sad a child died" is wrong.
Any child's death is going to get to me on some level
You just wrote a couple paragraphs about an aristocratic kid dying a hundred years ago while imperial exploitation grinds up hundreds of thousands of kids a year
I literally acknowledged that perspective is important like three times in those paragraphs. Sorry I have a bit of an autistic fixation on this. I get it. The victims of the Tsars deserve our tears more than Alexei does. I literally said that already. But idk any mention of the Romanov deaths is going to trigger a response from be because its a fixation. It was one of the things I struggled with for the longest time because of my difficulty accepting the idea that a child's death is ever a "pragmatic necessity". So its still very much on my mind to this day.
ETA: Its also worth noting that just because I make one post focusing on a topic doesnt mean I'm not upset about the "imperial exploitation grinding up hundreds of thousands of kids a year". Honestly, I do speak up about that but sometimes I feel like it goes without saying. I dont understand this frequent idea presented that because you write about one thing, you dont care about the other more important thing.
Yeah so funny to tell a child they deserved to be hurt
Yes, imagining you going around and telling random Israeli children that is quite funny to me
Man you would be crying about the Romanov children halfway through the Russian civil war. Shut the fuck up
I mean, I consider the killing of the Romanov children to be a tragic necessity at best, And someone recently argued to me that it wasn't even actually necessary. And also while I was searching for that post I was reminded that someone else told me that there was no evidence of an order from the higher ups to kill the kids.
Like, I completely agree that revolutions are messy and that we can't condemn them for excesses and errors, and that the scope of the amount of children killed by the forces they are fighting against are much higher and deserve our tears much more.
But at the end of the day, Alexei was 13, unequivocably a child, and with no administrative power as well. Applying some sort of collective guilt to him for the crimes of his father/dynasty is not materialist. Ideally, if the Civil War situation hadn't forced their hand, he would have been Puyi'd instead.
Like the person you're replying to here is being a concern troll asshole but on a base level I don't think concern for the murder of children is a bad thing. Like I think being able to say "wow, a child died, that sucks" proves that you are still human. I'm not sure I want to fight a revolution on the side of people who don't retain the idea that killing children is something to be avoided as much as possible.
In the case of this conflict, it absolutely needs to be acknowledged that the rage for the death of these children should be set at the feet of the colonizers themselves, not the people resisting them, to be clear. But I can't agree with the implication that I can't be sad at all about kids dying. Kids are my life. I work with them professionally and they are the primary thing I care about in the world. Any child's death is going to get to me on some level. Absolutely I should put their deaths in context and look at the bigger picture, and put the fault for their deaths at the right person. But that doesn't mean the base emotion of "I am sad a child died" is wrong.
You just wrote a couple paragraphs about an aristocratic kid dying a hundred years ago while imperial exploitation grinds up hundreds of thousands of kids a year
Seems like a strange thing to focus on
I literally acknowledged that perspective is important like three times in those paragraphs. Sorry I have a bit of an autistic fixation on this. I get it. The victims of the Tsars deserve our tears more than Alexei does. I literally said that already. But idk any mention of the Romanov deaths is going to trigger a response from be because its a fixation. It was one of the things I struggled with for the longest time because of my difficulty accepting the idea that a child's death is ever a "pragmatic necessity". So its still very much on my mind to this day.
ETA: Its also worth noting that just because I make one post focusing on a topic doesnt mean I'm not upset about the "imperial exploitation grinding up hundreds of thousands of kids a year". Honestly, I do speak up about that but sometimes I feel like it goes without saying. I dont understand this frequent idea presented that because you write about one thing, you dont care about the other more important thing.