Hamas military chief: 'If you have a gun, get it out'
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Muhammad Al-Deif, the Hamas military commander, called for a general uprising against Israel in a recorded message on Saturday.

God help them. The slaughter to come is probably beyond our imagining

  • President_Obama [they/them]
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    1 year ago

    Hey can someone fill me in on the implications of this attack? Because from my understanding it's Hamas sending in their soldiers with an unknown goal, not an organic armed rebellion with mass Palestinian support, yet I see people on here (who have the cool politics hexbear-specter ) treating this as the start towards national liberation

        • GodDamnAmercia [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          It appears to be a coordinated effort of basically all the armed resistance organizations in Palestinian including the Marxist PFLP and DFLP

            • GodDamnAmercia [he/him]
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              1 year ago

              Here from @Awoo@hexbear.net

              Best one for the palestinian perspective is https://t.me/PalestineResist, it is definitely being run by people inside Palestine.

              https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator is also posting. Not leftist.

              https://t.me/mangopress has posted some interesting videos, is leftist.

              https://t.me/BellumActaNews posts things, 100% chud channel.

              https://t.me/CIG_telegram also posting, I've suspected for a while that this is a US intelligence one. Does a lot of automated bot posting and amplifying of infosec groups, I think the whole group that all amplify one another are all US intel. Whether the group is or isn't it still posts stuff that's worth keeping tabs on.

    • Vncredleader
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      1 year ago

      There is no real organic armed rebellion ever. Hamas' soldiers are not separate from the mass of Palestinians, they are literally civilians who became militants. This is another battle in a war for national liberation, not a start. All uprisings in Palestine are. The Tet offensive was armed soldiers working with the NVA to strike various targets without an obvious intent and without a mass rebellion outside of those sent by the Viet Minh.

      Think of it in those terms. Trotsky criticized the Easter Rising for that same reason which as Lenin responded

      The centuries-old Irish national movement, having passed through various stages and combinations of class interest, manifested itself, in particular, in a mass Irish National Congress in America Vorworts, March 20, 1916) which called for Irish independence; it also manifested itself in street fighting conducted by a section of the urban petty bourgeoisie and a section of the workers after a long period of mass agitation, demonstrations, suppression of newspapers, etc. Whoever calls such a rebellion a “putsch” is either a hardened reactionary, or a doctrinaire hopelessly incapable of envisaging a social revolution as a living phenomenon.

      To imagine that social revolution is conceivable without revolts by small nations in the colonies and in Europe, without revolutionary outbursts by a section of the petty bourgeoisie with all its prejudices, without a movement of the politically non-conscious proletarian and semi-proletarian masses against oppression by the landowners, the church, and the monarchy, against national oppression, etc.-to imagine all this is to repudiate social revolution. So one army lines up in one place and says, “We are for socialism”, and another, somewhere else and says, “We are for imperialism”, and that will he a social revolution! Only those who hold such a ridiculously pedantic view could vilify the Irish rebellion by calling it a “putsch”.

      Whoever expects a “pure” social revolution will never live to see it. Such a person pays lip-service to revolution without understanding what revolution is.

      Point is you want cadres operating on the authority of a party or organization, not an organic mass arming. So even if it was just Hamas that would be based.