• the_kid
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    1 year ago

    If China continues to insist on abandoning proletarian internationalism and trying to be a friend to literally everyone

    China doesn't want to be friends with everyone, they want to be able to do business with everyone. they do a shit ton of business with idf-cool, they're one of China's biggest trade partners in Asia, especially the tech/surveillance sector.

    Chinese foreign policy has always been dog shit and they don't care about anything outside of their borders, so I guess no one should have expected much more from them. :china-cool:

    • Judge_Juche [she/her]
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      1 year ago

      It's an open secret too that Israel is a conduit for Western technology, especially sensitive technologies, to get to China. It wasn't too long ago (like mid 2000s) that Israel was just openly selling the weapons it gets from the US and Europe to China.

      • loathsome dongeater@lemmygrad.ml
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        1 year ago

        Why does this arrangement exist? I never understood this. Why not just not have a middleman?

        Tangentially, it is really disgusting how Israel has become a bleeding edge innovation hub for all the worst kinds of military and cyberwarfare stuff. I guess having Israel be the salesperson for this kind of shit gives US plausible deniability. I hate Israel. Literally destruction and misanthrophy sublimated into the form of an ethnostate.

        • LeninWeave [none/use name]
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          1 year ago

          They can't sell weapons to China while pretending to think China is preparing for war against them and falsely accusing them of genocide.

          They also can't stop supplying weapons to Israel while it's an important colonial outpost and they insist it's a shining democracy that must be protected.

          Israel knows this and gets to play both sides a bit, which China uses to get access to western weapons. It's cynical geopolitics.

    • zephyreks [none/use name]
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      1 year ago

      China's foreign policy is entirely centered around their sphere of influence. Their neighbours in Southeast Asia are far more their concern than what happens in the Middle East. They lack the influence and the resources to do anything significant in the Middle East and they know it.

      • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
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        1 year ago

        China isn't the Soviet Union. It doesn't have the military muscle to project power beyond the countries that border it. This is the difference between the two. The Soviet Union was a superpower because of its military while China is a superpower because of its economy. China can't do anything immediate to stop Israel's genocide. Military-wise, they not only lack the raw power but also have to reserve most of their military in case they have to forcefully seek reunification with Taiwan. Even something extremely drastic like a complete sanction and severing of relations between China and Israel won't materially stop the genocide for the simple reason that the rabid dog Netanyahu and the rest of the Zionists will not be stopped by anything except for brutal force, something that China lacks.

      • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        They lack the influence and the resources to do anything significant in the Middle East and they know it.

        They got the Saudis and Iranians to mend their fence, which is pretty huge. Reading between the lines, China probably offered guarantees to both Saudi and Iran off the table so it's not impossible that China is choosing to act through them as proxies.

        Still, a weak statement from the Foreign Ministry. Wonder if they'll toughen their stance if Israel continues to commit attrocities and the Arab and Muslim world asks China to choose sides.