• ChaosMaterialist [he/him]
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    9 months ago

    I'm sorry, but this is like asking me to sympathize with Nazis when Warsaw rose up. I don't care how many Nazi kids are killed, or how many Nazi civilians die. The simple answer is do not be a genocidal apartheid ethnostate and do not support a genocidal apartheid ethnostate.

    Israel sacrificed its moral support when it asked us to look away during its atrocities.

    EDIT: Nazi kids are not a thing. I apologize. I was way too hasty. I'm leaving it up as a reminder for others to keep a cooler head.

    • BodyBySisyphus [he/him]
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      9 months ago

      Israel chose to put those kids in harm's way by inciting the conflict, but you should still care that they died. They didn't ask to be born into this mess and had no choice in becoming collateral damage. Take a break from gazing into the abyss.

      • GriffithDidNothingWrong [comrade/them]
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        9 months ago

        War is terrible and the loss of any human life is a tragic and untenable waste but, as an American, children getting gunned down is just a Tuesday. I'm more concerned with the actions the deaths of these particular children will precipitate. Any sort of overly performative grief will only play into that

      • ChaosMaterialist [he/him]
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        9 months ago

        First, you aren't wrong and I want to complement you on you seeing the human lives here. It is important!

        To give a zizek-fuck reply, the only way I can grieve and denounce the violence is by pointedly withholding that grief precisely because that grief is weaponized by Israel to commit more atrocities. This removes the shield Israel uses and exposes them to their own horror.

        To put it another way, I will also withhold support for an abuser because an abuser will use that as a means of defending and continuing their actions. Keeping that support from them, however objectively legitimate that support is, forces them to confront their own actions.

    • plinky [he/him]
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      9 months ago

      On a slightly less blood-thirsty note, nazi kids aren't a thing, at best they are victims of propaganda.

      But parents bear full brunt of responsibility, either by moving to israel or, using brainwormed chomsky argument, by who they vote for.

        • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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          9 months ago

          Every 18 year old Fascist soldier is a tragedy. We failed to rescue them from Fascism before they could be made in to monsters. : (

      • DayOfDoom [any, any]
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        9 months ago

        Nazi kids down the street just made fun of me and my Simpsons backpack. So think again.

        • plinky [he/him]
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          9 months ago

          Steal their ice cream and spoil season 25 arc soviet-huff

    • RyanGosling [none/use name]
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      9 months ago

      The Nazis are also responsible for putting their citizens in harm’s way by forcing people resist or retaliate out of rage.

      • Mardoniush [she/her]
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        9 months ago

        Yeah, well if I was a Soviet soldier who'd had his family starved to death for generalplan ost and then liberated a death camp I would struggle to not hold every adult German personally culpable.

        Shocking that they had as much appetite for mercy as they did. And I'm glad they did, but I still wonder how they softened their hearts.