link cos not lib: https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelPalestine/comments/17lmwud/tell_me_who_your_friends_are_and_i_will_tell_you/

  • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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    The "western mindset," build around the highest of the Greco-Roman and Judeo-Christian ideals, is what has allowed the world to prosper. Even the most recent humanist ideals are built upon those western ideals.

    The reason western ideals are not working is that people have abandoned them. Resentment and self-imposed victimization have taken the place of gratitude and accountability. I know I sound like I'm 900 years old, but the reality of that hasn't changed.

    True westernism has never been tried.

    How do these people believe this stuff beyond like 6th grade? There's no such thing as Greco-Roman ideals, those were slave societies operated by pedophiles and they were in direct conflict with both Jews and Christians. "Judeo-Christian" has never been a thing outside of maybe Jesus himself. Even to the extent that Greece and Rome had specific ideologies, modern people would find them pretty alien. Like they had no concept of biological race, homosexuality was frequently considered superior to being hetero, and religious belief was explicitly syncretic and flexible.

    Yeah sure all we have to do is imitate the reign of Elagabalus or and this will make western imperialism stop somehow. These nerds are the worst

    • GarfieldYaoi [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Wait until they realize that Marxism is "western". Not to mention that westerners gag upon hearing anything that remotely sounds like it was written by Thomas Paine.

      • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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        1 year ago

        Leslie Feinberg, Judith Butler, Gayle Rubin, and Michel Foucault are also all western and yet they're mortal enemies of the whole return to tradition fascists. They also have to concoct wild conspiracies to dismiss the entire field of sociology

    • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Resentment and self-imposed victimization have taken the place of gratitude and accountability

      Christianity is pretty famous for it's celebration of victimhood

      also are their ideals greco-roman or judeo christian there is quite a bit of conflict there

      • GarfieldYaoi [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        When have westoids ever thanked the global south for anything they have stolen from them?

        When have westoids ever accepted accountability for past crimes against humanity?

    • zed_proclaimer [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Judeo-Christian

      I would argue that the alignment of Christian evangelicals and Jewish Zionists constitutes “Judeo-Christian” values, those being settler-colonialism, apartheid and genocide and desire to nuke the entire Middle East