• nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
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      7 months ago

      raddle is where like four weird lifestyle anarchists (this is code words for libertarians with left aesthetics) pretend to be a lot more than four users

      • saladpresser [none/use name]
        hexagon
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        7 months ago

        Aren't lifestylists individualists rather than on the libertarian left? Isn't that the whole reason Bookchin denounced them?

        • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
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          7 months ago

          maybe this is a regional thing, but when I think "libertarian" with no modifiers it's weirdo american right wingers, so i'm saying these are super individualists who are opposed to collective action and just pretend to be leftist anarchists

          • saladpresser [none/use name]
            hexagon
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            7 months ago

            Doesn't raddle hate leftists though? They're pretty open about it: https://youtube.com/watch?v=50x0qcddf2k

              • saladpresser [none/use name]
                hexagon
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                7 months ago

                Someone called them out for banning leftists yesterday and got banned for it. It was hilarious: https://raddle.me/f/meta/177962/how-come-you-re-so-quick-to-ban-leftists-for-the-slightest

                • DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml
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                  7 months ago

                  Wow...that really is something else. It's like a weird bizzaro version of what the right wing thinks the left wing is like. Also "paranoid" is apparently an ableist slur now. I didn't get the memo, but as someone with a paranoia based disorder I hereby give everyone here the P-word pass.

                • kristina [she/her]
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                  7 months ago

                  tbh that could be read as transphobia, unless there was a trans lib that actually killed somone, which i mean, fair, trans people should all get 1 free kill at least

                  for the record im down with us being more lenient to trans people, i am a trans supremacist sicko-fem

                • ziq [they/them]
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                  7 months ago

                  We have to be vigilant against tankies couping our site. Red fash have tried to destroy raddle many times.

          • ziq [they/them]
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            7 months ago

            What happened to all of that lefty unity you tankies love so much?

              • ziq [they/them]
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                7 months ago

                You’re trying so hard to jerk off that you’re not making any sense. Libertarianism is a type of anarchism.

                  • ziq [they/them]
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                    7 months ago

                    It’s been months since I made sock puppet accounts to argue with people on raddle and I’ve apologized on my site every time the issue has come up.

                    There is no excuse for manipulating people on raddle like I did. I won’t do it again. I don’t see anyone else taking this kind of responsibility for their actions.

                    • Ram_The_Manparts [he/him]
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                      7 months ago

                      Yeah, you're definitely the only person who ever took responsibility for their actions on the internet lol

                    • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
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                      7 months ago

                      The last time I looked at raddle was years ago and you were saying it had been months since you'd made fake posts then

                      It's almost like you're just some weirdo who can't stop yourself from animating your weird puppets on your dead forum

    • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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      7 months ago

      Damn takes me back.

      Just from memory, I think Raddle started as an alt-Reddit back when shitredditsays was still a thing. I remember getting an invite on the IRC.

      • ziq [they/them]
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        7 months ago

        Raddle has been fighting the struggle for digital autonomy for years now. Hexbear didn’t need to exist, you could have come to my site instead.

        Instead, Hexbear’s founder was a mod on both r/chapotraphouse and r/moretankiechapo. He pulled a con on everyone here, I’m not surprised someone doxed him.

        • Helmic [he/him]
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          7 months ago

          the dude was an actual advocate for anarchists in a space that was very ML leaning and there's a person i strongly suspect of having doxxed him in retaliation for it. dude was looking into council communism by the end. i'm pretty critical of the politics on this site, but your sock puppet shit is exactly why a bunch of anarchists, myself included, did not feel safe going on your website, and part of the promise of hexbear was eventually federating which does a lot to hold your typically unaccountable internet moderator actually accountable to both their users and to others in general if they no longer can hold a monopoly on access to a community.

          it's also why i still don't have a reason to shitpost on raddle. none of these sites are safe places to actually organize anything (and i don't think it's fair to expect them to be that), but being entirely at the mercy of a particular clique of highly sectarian "ancoms aren't anarchIst" internet mods doesn't make it an appealing social hangout space or anywhere to actually meet vaguely like-minded people.

          if you've mellowed out since then that's great but like don't act like there wasn't a damn good reason people didn't want to be on your website.

          • saladpresser [none/use name]
            hexagon
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            7 months ago

            I completely agree beatnik's doxing was retaliation for him being welcoming to anarchists. But do you really think the admins on this site don't have alts after that? When we all witnessed how bad opsec combined with making enemies can lead to someone trying to destroy your life?

            We should all be alternating between accounts for security reasons, especially for arguing with people... You have no idea if the person you just called a radlib is a maniac who will pick though your history to dox you, SWATT you and get you fired. But it's especially important for admins because of their high visibility.

            I'm using an alt rn because I don't want raddle to come after me when I'm starting drama with them. The ziq parody you're replying to is an alt too.

            • Helmic [he/him]
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              7 months ago

              If I knew about his alts, I sure as fuck wouldn't be telling people about them. Him having an alt afterwards doesn't really mitigate the loss of identity and connections that comes with having to do that, or the trauma of being jacketed like that. Some dipshit doing a bit pretending to be ziq shouldn't be able to mouth off about that without pushback.

              • saladpresser [none/use name]
                hexagon
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                7 months ago

                Yeah I'm just saying we shouldn't be discouraging admins and mods from using alts to protect themselves. Ziq was doxed by kiwifarms, Beatnik by you know who, I think db0 got doxed too. It's much safer to use our mod/admin accounts for site operations and use alts to speak our mind so we don't get stalked by maniacs.

            • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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              7 months ago

              I completely agree beatnik's doxing was retaliation for him being welcoming to anarchists.

              Really? I never heard that one before

              It really came off to me as more of an attempt by rightwingers to troll CC

    • ziq [they/them]
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      7 months ago

      Raddle.me is a site I founded. It runs on Postmill and it remains the best hope for a post-civilization internet.